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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:27 PM Sep 2021

What California's Recall Election Can -- And Can't -- Tell Us About The 2022 Midterms

Last Tuesday’s gubernatorial recall election in California was the campaign that launched a thousand takes: It was a good sign for Democrats in 2022; it was a good sign for Republicans in 2022. But we at FiveThirtyEight urge far more caution before taking away any national lessons from California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s victory. To be sure, Newsom’s win was decisive, and with 89 percent of the votes now counted,1 we can dive a little more into what the results mean. But what they mean is very much up for interpretation — if they mean anything at all. After all, this was just one election and it was conducted under unusual circumstances to boot.

One thing we do know is that turnout was really high: More than 13 million people voted.2 That means more than 50 percent of California’s 26 million eligible voters cast a ballot — a remarkably high turnout rate for an off-year election. In fact, it’s higher than the 49 percent turnout in California’s regularly scheduled 2018 gubernatorial election, which was a historically high-turnout midterm.

It’s possible that this eye-popping figure means the high level of interest voters had in the previous two elections (the 2020 election had the highest turnout for a presidential election in over a century) is here to stay. But there are also other possible explanations for the recall’s high turnout. First, under a pandemic-inspired voting law, every registered voter was automatically mailed a ballot — a reform that political scientists say can significantly increase turnout. Second, recall elections may inherently generate a lot of voter interest (which makes sense, given that there needs to be strong grassroots passion on at least one side to force a recall in the first place). In two of the three previous gubernatorial recall elections in U.S. history, turnout was higher than in the respective state’s previous gubernatorial election, though this is admittedly a very small sample size.

The second thing we know about this year’s California recall is that the polls were off by quite a bit. The recall is currently failing by 26 percentage points (63 percent to 37 percent), and while that margin may tighten a tad more given the slight Republican trend in the count, it still marks a substantially more pro-Newsom result than FiveThirtyEight’s final recall polling average, which gave keeping Newsom in office a 16-point lead. This 10-point miss was about twice the size of the average polling error in gubernatorial elections dating back to 1998, and more than twice the size of the polling error in the 2020 presidential election, when Biden led by 8.4 points in FiveThirtyEight’s final polling average but won by 4.5 points. Notably, too, unlike the national polls in the 2020 presidential election, the polls in California were biased toward Republicans and not Democrats, which fits into a pattern where polls in very blue states have at times underestimated Democratic performance, particularly in the 2016 presidential election. As we’ve noted previously, it’s hard to predict the direction of polling errors because their movement is inconsistent from year to year — something to remember in 2022 and 2024.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-californias-recall-election-can-and-cant-tell-us-about-the-2022-midterms/

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What California's Recall Election Can -- And Can't -- Tell Us About The 2022 Midterms (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
California tells us nothing about the midterms. brooklynite Sep 2021 #1
Yeah, really. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #5
it means larry elder wasnt that popular nt msongs Sep 2021 #2
This Mz Pip Sep 2021 #9
California is dark blue. Newsom isn't Davis. onecaliberal Sep 2021 #3
I agree with the first three posts. Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #4
They didn't..... brooklynite Sep 2021 #6
Ah, yes. I knew that, too, darn it. Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #8
For crying out loud. Xolodno Sep 2021 #7

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
1. California tells us nothing about the midterms.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:31 PM
Sep 2021

California is a Safe D State for statewide offices. Says nothing about House races which vary in terms of political demographics, and says nothing about the Senate and Governor races in purple or red States.

Mz Pip

(27,439 posts)
9. This
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:40 PM
Sep 2021

Larry Elder was a gift to Gavin Newsom. He was so wildly out of touch with California that it woke up even the most asleep Democrat and sane leaning independent.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
4. I agree with the first three posts.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:49 PM
Sep 2021

Aside from that, I am deeply disturbed that 37% of Californians who voted actually wanted Larry Elder to be the governor. Sort of in the same way I'm astonished that even 1% of the country would vote for Trump for president. How did these people even learn to tie their shoes? Never in my lifetime have I seen such public displays of sheer idiocy in the general public as I have seen in the last five years.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
6. They didn't.....
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:10 PM
Sep 2021

37% OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED ON PART TWO OF THE BALLOT chose Elder. That's about 15% of people who voted in the recall election.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
7. For crying out loud.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:11 PM
Sep 2021

CA was never close. They always added the asterisk of "likely voters" and never explained exactly what that meant. They tried to make it a horse race and it fell flatter than a flat-earther conspiracy theorist who took off on a rocked and died back on impact.

Now they are trying to juice this for the opposite way. Good grief, the sensationalism is really getting a bit too cliché.

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