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OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 06:42 AM Sep 2021

"Small fraction of the Democratic Caucus" that's what Gottheimer calls the 96 member Progressive

Caucus, and he completely gets away with it, going unchallenged on Morning Joe.

That's such horse manure, when it's his conservative Democratic cabal numbers less than a dozen. Neither was he asked what in the 3.5 Trillion Bill did he want stripped out of there. As usual a softball interview on MJ.

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Celerity

(43,358 posts)
1. The small faction is the Gang of 12 (Manchin, Sinema, and the 10 renegade House conservadems) vs the
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 06:55 AM
Sep 2021
other 260 elected Dems (48 in the Senate, 210 in the House, plus Biden and Harris)

The conservadems (working hand in glove with the Rehugs) already smashed and slashed out 80% of Biden's new spend and tax incentives ($2.6 trillion slashed to $550 billion) from the bi-partisan bill, and now they want to do a similar gutting of Biden's agenda in the reconciliation bill OR perhaps block it altogether.

THEY are the anti-Biden faction, they are the ones trying to fuck us for 2022, by destroying huge parts of Biden's agenda, massive blockage of absolutely integral campaign promises.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
2. Exactly. And Gottheimer got a free pass on that. Someone should do an indepth study of their
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 06:59 AM
Sep 2021

donor list.

Celerity

(43,358 posts)
3. and Gottheimer had the jacobs to talk about massive new environmental new protections & initiatives
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:07 AM
Sep 2021

in the bi-partisan bill.

They WERE such things, but they got slashed out to a breath-taking degree, and Fossil Fuel Manchin wants to do the same to the reconciliation bill.


Do not forget that $2.05 trillion was already stripped out of Biden's proposal for the hard infrastructure bi-partisan bill. The total new infrastructure spending is only $550 billion (the other $650 billion is just renewal of old already-passed spending programmes under Trump and Moscow McTurtle).

The Infrastructure Plan: What’s In and What’s Out (it's brutal)

Biden's original plan:



What was left after they took a 2 trillion USD hatchet to it




They already chopped almost EIGHTY percent of actual new spending out of the hard infrastructure bill

and now Manchin wants to chop another almost 60 to 70% out of the even bigger bill, one that needs ZERO Rethugs votes to pass.


The total new spending on Biden's original 2 bill proposals (hard and human) was $6.1 trillion.

IF Manchin and Sinema stick to their guns and chop out $2 trillion to $2.5 trillion of of the reconciliation bill, then you are looking at a total new spend for both bills of only $1.55 trillion to $2.05 trillion instead of $6.1 trillion.

That is a truly massive 2/3rds to 3/4ers total reduction in new spending, and the vast majority will be from the parts the largest single Democratic caucus in the House (the 96 person-strong Progressive Caucus) all desperately wanted, especially things to address climate change and to help working class Americans. Pete DeFazio, the Chair of the House Transportation Committee has been very, very unhappy for ages about what the bi-partisan Senators did.

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,808 posts)
4. Home and community based care-$0
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:32 AM
Sep 2021

That's the one that really speaks to me.

Unbelievable.

Thank you for the breakdown.

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