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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOP dirty tricks? 15,000 Haitian refugees at the same TX border location at the same time!
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Quakerfriend
(5,442 posts)There were reports from Mexico of bus loads passing through ..🙄
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)with the dirty tricks Republicans have pulled, it crossed my mind early on that they might have set up this explosion at the border out of spite. We know they are capable...just need to opportunity to pull it off and keep their hands clean.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)to go from Haiti to Brazil and then up through Mexico to arrive at a strongly protected border. Going by boat to Florida might be easier.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Many were refugees from the prior earthquake years back that killed 10's of 1000's and decimated the country.
moose65
(3,166 posts)When I first read that, I thought, "Wait, what??" It seems SO weird that so many Haitian refugees would end up in Mexico. I even got into an argument with a nimrod on Facebook when I posed that question: "How did they manage to leave a Caribbean country with nothing and end up in Mexico?" and the reply I got was "They walked."
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)so anything is possible if you believe
mollie8
(162 posts)This should be televised.
malaise
(268,724 posts)That rat was obvious from day one - I even asked about sabotage
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Operationally, I don't know that one person 'on the ground' (Miller) could do that much.
However, he could've been there as something of a secret envoy to talk to the Brazilian government and encourage them to use their resources to accomplish that task ... I can imagine Bolsonaro was happy to get rid of the Haitians and do IQ45 a solid at same time.
Quakerfriend
(5,442 posts)at Jan. 5th meeting just prior to the insurrection .
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Meanwhile, Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc. did not involve their kids in anything.
FSogol
(45,456 posts)getting cash and plum jobs from their crappy parents and friends of their parents?
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)a large number had been living in Chile. They relocated there after the earthquake but faced poor employment and discrimination. This article from last year sheds some light on the situation of Haitians in Chile:
https://www.borgenmagazine.com/haitians-in-chile/
..."Originally enticed to move to Chile by reports of endless job opportunities, once there, employers abuse and underpay them. Landlords crowd them into overpriced, closet-sized rooms. Scam artists try to sell them work contracts that could put them on the wrong side of the law. These fake work contracts caused some Haitians to lose their work visas. The closet-sized rooms often have no running water and a single bathroom shared with up to 15 residents. There are even reports of some Haitians forced to sleep in stables.
It is less about their immigrant status, but rather their skin color and the perception of their home country which causes many Haitians in Chile to experience isolation, mistreatment and mockery. Haitians reported that Venezuelan and other Spanish-speaking migrants receive better treatment and have more opportunities for jobs. Misleading information and stereotypes portray Haitians, many of whom came to Chile speaking only Creole, as poor, dirty and low-skilled. Although some Haitians are immigrating with an advanced degree, Chile has been slow to officially recognize foreign degrees."...(more)
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)It was done intentionally.
The Q's have done this before.
GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)It's shocking that so few people are even wondering how so many people showed up at the border like that, literally overnight.
Botany
(70,449 posts)... Haitians showing up on the Texas Mexico border did not pass his smell test.
Quakerfriend
(5,442 posts)Botany
(70,449 posts)... like a long way to go. How did they pay for all of that? And how did they travel all that way?
If they had the money for all that travel why didn't they just take a plane flight from Haiti to America?
And Jason Miller just happened to be in Brazil before the Haitians showed up @ the border?
LeftInTX
(25,151 posts)The GOP did this to Obama in 2014.
They spread rumors that Obama was gonna welcome them with open arms. It got on all the radio stations in Central America and Southern Mexico and they came here.
All it takes is connections.
2naSalit
(86,373 posts)Or something just like that took place.
All tfg's henchmen need to be rounded up and detained until their trials.
kentuck
(111,056 posts)Also, some of them had left Haiti years ago? Did they all decide to just pack up and one day go to Texas? Strange.
Backseat Driver
(4,381 posts)"Look, all I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, Trump told Raffensperger.
Near the same number+; just sayin' - A bit late for 2020 votes in GA but "twisted" and reframed purpose? Next time around?(2024)
And the Intelligence analysts heard, saw, nada amiss until BAM, there they were, like Ninjas?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)brooklynite
(94,384 posts)Am I to also assume that the Republicans conspired with the ICE agents to beat them up?
Ohioboy
(3,239 posts)The GOP loves chaos on the border.
They are the ones that promote the false idea that the border is wide open.
This has "GOP dirty trick" all over it. Karl Rove would be proud.
George II
(67,782 posts)Celerity
(43,138 posts)The claims in those tweets they ALL came from Brasil are ludicrous. Also, some who did start from there had already left long before January 2021.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/23/facebook-posts/why-haitians-are-crossing-us-texas-and-not-somewhe/
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The Brazilian government made humanitarian visas available to Haitians, and there was significant demand for construction workers leading up to the 2014 World Cup and the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. Once those jobs started to dry up, many Haitians moved on to Chile, Bolter said.
The Associated Press reported that about 150,000 Haitians went to Chile from 2014 to 2018 and found work as street vendors, janitors and construction workers.
However, since 2018, the Chilean government has made it more difficult for Haitians to get work visas.
"The cost of living in Chile is high, so it can be particularly difficult to get by with a poorly paying job," Bolter said. "Many Haitians experience racial discrimination in jobs and housing in Chile as well. Haitians who stayed in Brazil have continued to struggle economically, and have also faced racial discrimination, as well as crime and insecurity."
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SCantiGOP
(13,867 posts)Our folks can make up stuff too.
Doesnt any of the GOP did it crowd wonder why the thousands of journalists covering the story havent come up with this, but a speculative thread on DU with zero proof uncovers this massive international conspiracy?
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)Champp
(2,114 posts)So typical. So wrong. So anti-American. So Republican.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)Chakaconcarne
(2,436 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,766 posts)BTW, Jason Miller belongs in prison.
Escurumbele
(3,379 posts)I would really love to see that actually, all of them in the same prison complex, biting each other, blaming each other about everything...I just wonder who will volunteer to change trump's diapers and clean his butt.
I have been thinking that one of the biggest fears trump may have about going to jail is not having enough diaper, or someone to clean his butt, that he will have to do it himself...plus of course, he won't have a toilet made of gold in there.
kentuck
(111,056 posts)Why would they pull such a stunt?
Would they think it would create such chaos that people would be demanding the return of Trump and the Republicans?
This seems a little "big" even for Republican conspiracy theorists. This seems like something that may have been hatched in the Kremlin and forwarded to Trump and his associates?
Farmer-Rick
(10,140 posts)Why do they protest wearing masks? Why do they die by the thousands to follow a sociopath and bafoon? Why do they hate democracy?
If you are looking for logic and reason in their behavior, you may never find it.
Escurumbele
(3,379 posts)but as long as they can make noise, that they can disrupt Biden's administration then they are happy. The cruelty is the goal, using Haitians as pawns is just criminal in itself, but they lack vision about consequences, they have linear thinking they cannot see on the sides to figure out what problems can even come back to them, they only see the end-goal as they figure it would come out.
Example? The Maricopa clown show, now Biden has more votes...Who are they going to blame now, the cyber-Ninjas? The Cyber-Ninjas will be shown as Democratic hacks who "fooled" republicans but were really working in favour of the Democrats...or something like that.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)We know Bannon's goal was to burn it all down. Trump thrives on chaos. I imagine there will be many more "crises" between now and November 2024.
Marthe48
(16,908 posts)r's destroy human lives as if their motives weren't human. Displacing 15,000 Haitians wouldn't make them lose a wink of sleep.
I think the planning probably started in June, as one of the quotes mentioned.
Where did those improverished people get cell phones? And how did they recharge the batteries on their trek?
Submariner
(12,499 posts)Just as the Cubans washed up on our beaches in 1960, and beyond, and sought food and shelter from tyrannical government oppression in Havana, the Haitians are suffering the same social chaos from an assassination on top of the earthquake, and seek our help today.
The Miami Cuban population should reach out and lend a hand to their fellow Caribbean islanders in distress.
Etherealoc1
(256 posts)at one point the Mexican Government
was only letting the Haitians go through during the mass exodus.
The other refugees were being detained.
Then I thought maybe TFG may
have been involved with this.
Pure speculation on my part but who
knows what's happening behind the
scenes.
Escurumbele
(3,379 posts)They should have seen this coming, they should be observing the criminals from the previous administration who still roam around, we all know they are up to no good.
What is going on intelligence agencies? 15,000 people coming into the USA is not that hard to spot with all the technology that is available today...
Sorry but, out intelligence agencies are failing us. There should be changes at the head of the FBI to begin with, I don't have confidence in Christopher Wray.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,309 posts)mass-deportation to make the problem go away! It wasn't a real crisis, you guys! If it's a Republican dirty trick, then we can respond in a political way instead of a humanitarian way and hopefully the administration won't get any blowback!!!!!!! WHEW!!!!!!!
Farmer-Rick
(10,140 posts)It can be a humanitarian crisis And orchestrated by the GOP.
It looks to me like someone orchestrated this. Even if it was a grass root effort, who organized it?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,309 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Very suspicious indeed. Typical racist trickery.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)I guess I might know now!
Ace Rothstein
(3,144 posts)That's one of the most inhospitable places on the planet.
Backseat Driver
(4,381 posts)Panama? https://www.britannica.com/place/Darien-region-Panama
"The Pan-American Highway does not traverse Darién, which effectively blocks land transportation between Central and South America."
"Since the late 1990s, Darién has been the site of increased conflict as Colombian groups (guerrillas, narcotics traffickers, and right-wing paramilitary forces) cross the border into Panama and smugglers bring over a growing number of refugees from Colombias civil war. The Panamanian governments inability to defend the region has become a source of growing concern and political debate within Panama."
MissMillie
(38,533 posts)of making messes for us to clean up.
Blue Owl
(50,291 posts)former9thward
(31,949 posts)And the Dept of Homeland Security, CIA and all the rest don't know about it? The answer would probably generate a whole slew of new CTs.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)These sycophants need to be stopped by any means necessary.