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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor ONCE, get the taste of blood in your mouth. For ONCE, act like you fucking mean it.
@TheRickWilson
1/ Now, let me take a moment to note something for the 1/6 committee.
Each one of these Trump mooks will resist the subpoenas. Each one of them will demand to testify in private. Each one with make spurious claims of executive privilege. Each one of them will lie and lie.
2/ Now...and this is the tricky part, but do try to pay attention.
Fuck. These. Guys.
Don't let them or their lawyers wedge you into the phony courtesies and hollow formalities of the Old Washington.
These are people who would have gladly burned down our nation.
3/ They TRIED. 1/6 for them wasn't a failed coup. It was training exercise. Bannon -- an avowed Leninist who wants to destroy every institutions to rebuild them in his own alt-reich vision. Meadows, an apparatchik who would carry out any excess. Patel, dirty from the jump.
4/ They are all the most hostile of witnesses. Hostile to the truth. Hostile to the country. Hostile to democracy and the Republic.
They'll be playing for the Fox camera. Your task isn't simply to investigate but to humiliate.
5/ Keep in mind the power of spectacle, which is too often underappreciated in politics. Keep in mind that the Trump acolytes and anal leeches will plan and execute this same outrage, at scale.
These are enemies of the American people and should treated as such.
6/ I'm a sterner sort than anyone on the committee, but for ONCE, get the taste of blood in your mouth. For ONCE, act like you fucking mean it. Enforce subpoenas. DOJ will back it. Jail obstructionists. Demand candor.
7/ Follow the phones. Follow the money. Follow the email trail. The Venn diagram of White House/Trump World conspirators and the angry mob is filled with some truly degenerate and vile human filth like Roger Stone and Ali Alexander.
8/ Live hearings. Fill the media void with the Trump mutant parade. Bring in the spawn of Trump. Make it hurt.
Enough for now. More to come.
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Girard442
(6,086 posts)hlthe2b
(102,421 posts)Yeah, he's been a formidable enemy and will likely be again in the future, but he knows these cretins and he knows how to get at them--and is not stymied by an increasingly (largely historical) sense of professional decorum.
Crunchy Frog
(26,685 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,449 posts)And he understands were dealing with wholly unprincipled adversaries hellbent on destroying our democracy, so we need to fight them with the same fervor and singular purpose we fought the confederacy in the Civil War and fascism in WW2, as these people are the rancid spawn of those diseased ideologies. So concerns about offending the delicate sensibilities of the beltway press, who endlessly try to rehabilitate them and minimize their clear and present danger are of no consequence. As he points out, the case can and should be made to the American people with all of the ugly truth about these traitors and their attempt to overthrow our democracy held up for all to see. No holds barred.
dflprincess
(28,086 posts)for a session of the hearings.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,739 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)MontanaMama
(23,357 posts)would have more of this killer instinct.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Republicans are a disease.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Bettie
(16,132 posts)but he has it right in this case.
We need to fight like they do, but in our case, we are seeking the truth. To get it, our side should be willing to do whatever it takes and the law is on our side, if only we use it.
NewHendoLib
(60,027 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)You can't be nice to the klan.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,177 posts)NewHendoLib
(60,027 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)EXACTLY! Their power can only be destroyed by humiliation.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)UNTIL the Democrats follow this advice, it's going to be Lucy and the football.
I fear that once again, the Democrats will bring a Banana to a Knife Fight.
dem4decades
(11,307 posts)SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE
Mme. Defarge
(8,054 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)they shouldn't be allowed an inch of leeway. fuck them all.
DFW
(54,448 posts)Dont bite the hand that feeds you, but dont shake the hand that slaps you, either.
Firestorm49
(4,037 posts)MiHale
(9,788 posts)Dont say anything. Rick Wilson should be listened to intensely.
Thats all.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Since, you know, they cant do it themselves.
Bucky
(54,087 posts)From the environment to social programs to foreign policy to fiscal responsibility, the donkey is always mopping up behind the elephant. Now we have to even clean up when they fowled their own nest.
Somehow we've got to trick them into putting the country first and quit embracing criminality and lies as a way of "winning" elections.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)DeeNice
(575 posts)aocommunalpunch
(4,245 posts)Republicans? Please excuse me while I shake my head in cynical disbelief.
bahboo
(16,373 posts)Fuck 'em...
dalton99a
(81,637 posts)Lemon Lyman
(1,351 posts)This is one of the things about which Bill Maher has been right. Dems need to be better about bragging and messaging. Of course I don't want tfg-level bragging. But you have to remind voters what's you've done for them, like the child tax credit parents are receiving right now.
I read that tfg's #'s improved among groups b/c he made sure his signature was on the stimulus checks.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,459 posts)Thanks for the thread kpete.
DENVERPOPS
(8,862 posts)that I knew, who laughed out loud when Hillary said:
The Republican Party has turned into a "huge criminal conspiracy" or something to that effect............
Same for Pelosi when she said: "All Republican roads lead to PUTIN".............
Wild blueberry
(6,670 posts)Doing all this will prevent the next, real coup.
This old lady want blood from the traitors!
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)to the people who impeached Trump twice.
I'd be interested to know exactly what Rick Wilson has done to get blood in his mouth lately (or ever) since all I've seen him do is send out tweets and sit in his house in front of his computer and ring light doing nothing but running his mouth ...
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Except, of course, when Democrats use them ... at least for those who are hellbent on trashing Democrats at every turn while treating Republican media strategists as if they are God's gift to the world.
Gotcha.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)ConstanceCee
(314 posts)I think they should be reminded constantly that they are under oath, and what being under oath means.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Dems must do the same. The country will fall if they do not.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)OK. But then how will anyone be able to tell us apart from Republicans?
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The GOP would do the same.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)Compare their goals
usaf-vet
(6,220 posts)Of course, metaphorically speaking.
Although ........
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I noticed that some of the same people (not you) who are demanding that Democrats get "blood in their mouths," humiliate Republicans, grind them into the dirt, beat them bloody, etc. also go out of their way to lecture BLM, Colin Kaepernick, and other people of color that protesting too loud or kneeling too much or using the wrong words is counterproductive and we should find other, gentler, less offensive ways to effect "real change."
It will be helpful to remember this take no prisoners and beat the ever loving crap out of them approach the next time anyone tells us our protests to stop police from killing us are too aggressive.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)(Democrats) also go out of their way to lecture BLM, Colin Kaepernick, and other people of color that protesting too loud or kneeling too much or using the wrong words is counterproductive and we should find other, gentler, less offensive ways to effect "real change."
Wingus Dingus
(8,059 posts)Bucky
(54,087 posts)"I'm a sterner sort than anyone on the committee"
-- Ugh, shut up you fucking Bush-Cheney poser. Like 90% of "anti-Trump" Republicans he's just jealous that Trump outgrifted the country. His patriotism is mostly the usual sore loser pique you always get from the country club right.
FakeNoose
(32,826 posts)This is how to scare the sh*t out of Repukes. This is how to make them behave. Let them see the consequences of their actions. Make them admit everything they did, and punish them for all of it. Once this is done, don't stop until you've nailed the a$$hole who was at the top of it all.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)...that has encouraged Dems to go along to get along, for some stupid notion of "bipartisanship" and "tradition" and "comity" and "gentleman's agreement" while Republicans have nearly gutted us time after time and still continue to get away with it.
Republicans have USED our better nature against us.
And THAT is the essence of Sun Tzu's "Art of War' -- use your opponent's strengths against him/her.
Gotta end this trend, or live under autocracy. It's that critical.
Irish_Dem
(47,528 posts)Tribetime
(4,713 posts)Kablooie
(18,644 posts)The time to show strength was months ago.
This is just a slow, follow the book step by step procedure like it always is.
Allow the opposition every chance to defend themselves until the whole thing just fades away into a report that is filed away into history.
Sorry. I don't believe anything will come of this except a lot of empty words, hand wringing and smoke.
An insurrection to overthrow an election is apparently not serious enough for Democrats to briskly and severely lay down the law.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)orangecrush
(19,645 posts)Let's see some.
Evolve Dammit
(16,783 posts)hay rick
(7,648 posts)I use that phrase a lot. They are also enemies of the human race. Or save some oxygen ,time, and effort and just call them traitors. Coddling these people is irresponsible. It demonstrates weakness and only encourages further attacks on our society and democracy.
NH Ethylene
(30,817 posts)Throw those assholes in jail until they are ready to testify!
czarjak
(11,301 posts)MOF, I remember being told non-conservatives were the worst thing you could be. Arsonists complaining the smoke from the fire. Period. The base is theirs. Thanks, guys.