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Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:09 AM Sep 2021

'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/vigilante-treatments-anti-vaccine-groups-push-people-leave-icus-rcna2233


Anti-vaccine Facebook groups have a new message for their community members: Don’t go to the emergency room, and get your loved ones out of intensive care units.

Consumed by conspiracy theories claiming that doctors are preventing unvaccinated patients from receiving miracle cures or are even killing them on purpose, some people in anti-vaccine and pro-ivermectin Facebook groups are telling those with Covid-19 to stay away from hospitals and instead try increasingly dangerous at-home treatments, according to posts seen by NBC News over the past few weeks.

The messages represent an escalation in the mistrust of medical professionals in groups that have sprung up in recent months on social media platforms, which have tried to crack down on Covid misinformation. And it’s something that some doctors say they’re seeing manifest in their hospitals as they have filled up because of the most recent delta variant wave.

“We were down to four Covid patients two months ago. In this surge, we’ve had 40 to 50 patients with Covid on four different ICU services, 97 percent of them unvaccinated,” said Wes Ely, an ICU doctor and professor of medicine at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. “We were making headway, and now we’re just losing really, really badly. There’s something that’s happening on the internet, and it’s dramatically increasing steam.”

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'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2021 OP
That's good news. Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #1
Cull the herd. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2021 #23
Maybe all we have to do is hunker down a little longer with our vaccines and our masks Ocelot II Sep 2021 #2
+1. NCjack Sep 2021 #4
Good - nt Ohio Joe Sep 2021 #3
"try increasingly dangerous at-home treatments"? Leghorn21 Sep 2021 #5
The anti-vaxxers should open the "Gimme that ol' fashion religious hospital." NCjack Sep 2021 #6
For once I wholeheartedly agree with them. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #7
I'm all in favor of them not going to the hospital. Raftergirl Sep 2021 #8
Damn, that's tragic. It really is. Sad and repulsive all at the same time. Solly Mack Sep 2021 #9
Everything I read about what's happening with the hospitals makes me think of you. Nevilledog Sep 2021 #15
I read these stories and think about how lucky I was but it should never have been Solly Mack Sep 2021 #16
How do you function if you don't trust the doctors to take care of your health? Walleye Sep 2021 #10
Next level Jonestown. 2naSalit Sep 2021 #11
Yeah, with Jonestown temporary311 Sep 2021 #22
Okay. zuul Sep 2021 #12
It's better than having relatives pushing hospitals to allow other treatments. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #13
Shame on the republicans for getting in bed with these nuts for political power tulipsandroses Sep 2021 #14
Thoughts and prayers. lindysalsagal Sep 2021 #17
By all means, free up the needed space! N/t LiberatedUSA Sep 2021 #18
It's a murder/suicide cult. NOT a joke, not hyperbole. That's what it is. n/t TygrBright Sep 2021 #19
Clean that gene pool! The Mouth Sep 2021 #20
About time they lived up to their beliefs... Grins Sep 2021 #21
Where to these Antivaxxers find the time? maxsolomon Sep 2021 #24
Red graves make blue waves Tarc Sep 2021 #25
Yayyyy 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 live love laugh Sep 2021 #26
23. Cull the herd.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:27 PM
Sep 2021

Let'em refuse the vaccine and demand a home brewed concoction they read about on the internet. Watch their spouse and children suffer emotionally and financially because of the anti-vaxxer's selfishness. And don't forget the cost of funerals -- I imagine cemeteries are filling up. Location, location, location.

I bet there's a market for a new dating app for widows and widowers of anti-vaxxer significant others. "Vaccinated female, blonde, 29, two kids, newly single, seeks vaccinated male. Must show proof of vaccination and booster. Fox News viewers need not apply."

Ocelot II

(115,674 posts)
2. Maybe all we have to do is hunker down a little longer with our vaccines and our masks
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:13 AM
Sep 2021

and our social distancing, and the situation will take care of itself...

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
9. Damn, that's tragic. It really is. Sad and repulsive all at the same time.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:26 AM
Sep 2021

Their stubborn and willful ignorance isn't just killing them though. They are a danger to others.

Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
15. Everything I read about what's happening with the hospitals makes me think of you.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:44 AM
Sep 2021

What if you hadn't been able to get treatment?

I'm so glad you did.


Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
16. I read these stories and think about how lucky I was but it should never have been
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:01 PM
Sep 2021

about luck/chance. Which most likely meant the chance that someone would die quick enough to get me a bed.

I do believe that is what happened for me.

And all because they have made the choice to embrace fear and ignorance.

No matter what they say, they are ate up with fear.

Walleye

(31,008 posts)
10. How do you function if you don't trust the doctors to take care of your health?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:28 AM
Sep 2021

Doctors want to get you well and keep you healthy that’s their only agenda.Who do they want to take their health advice from? Steve Bannon?

temporary311

(955 posts)
22. Yeah, with Jonestown
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:18 PM
Sep 2021

a lot of people had to be forced at gun point. These folks only need Facebook to push em over the edge.

NH Ethylene

(30,809 posts)
13. It's better than having relatives pushing hospitals to allow other treatments.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:34 AM
Sep 2021

If they prefer ivermectin, let them stay home and take it.

tulipsandroses

(5,123 posts)
14. Shame on the republicans for getting in bed with these nuts for political power
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:42 AM
Sep 2021

I feel bad for the minors in these families who don’t get to make their own decisions. Greed has led us here. Had it not been for craven politicians, these loons would have just been weirdos like those that have been talking about lizard people for years. But just like politicians got in bed with the evangelicals and emboldened them, we are seeing them do it again with these nutty folks. I do fear what these people are capable of. I don’t put it past them to cause harm to doctors or healthcare workers. We’ve seen that with abortion providers.

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
20. Clean that gene pool!
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:10 PM
Sep 2021

Hell, I'll help 'em pack (vaxxed *and* had what was probably Covid very very early in 2020).

Grins

(7,212 posts)
21. About time they lived up to their beliefs...
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:18 PM
Sep 2021

First time I have ever agreed with the delusional Reich.
“Be strong, Patriots!”

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
25. Red graves make blue waves
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:47 PM
Sep 2021

Fine by me if the antivax loony tunes clear out and leave the ICU beds for deserving patients.

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