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Does she have any clue about she's saying? (Original Post) packman Sep 2021 OP
Oh Lord! snowybirdie Sep 2021 #1
Lol secondwind Sep 2021 #2
This is gas lighting. gab13by13 Sep 2021 #3
Too bad she didn't get help when she was eating paint chips. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #4
seems markie Sep 2021 #5
Even Harvard polishes turds from time to time I suppose. n/t iscooterliberally Sep 2021 #15
Keep the government out of my Medicare! SCantiGOP Sep 2021 #6
Too many stupid comments to pick the most stupid... MissMillie Sep 2021 #11
It doesn't matter- the zombies will eat it up like rotten brains. NBachers Sep 2021 #7
Is that real? oh shit it is! Beaverhausen Sep 2021 #8
Oh, dear lord. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #9
Reagan recorded TV ads against it thucythucy Sep 2021 #43
I was willing to bet based on your post title DeeNice Sep 2021 #10
Is she really that dumb? Butterflylady Sep 2021 #12
short answer - no ; longer answer also - no KG Sep 2021 #13
She thinks Medicare is sponsored by Budweiser. East-A-Squared Sep 2021 #14
She takes Republian Stupid to a whole new level Champp Sep 2021 #16
Part one doesn't jibe with Part two Mr. Ected Sep 2021 #17
America's democratic aspirations are being destroyed RVN VET71 Sep 2021 #18
she knows exactly what she said... bahboo Sep 2021 #19
Exactly. This is cynical propaganda. She knows she's lying. nt SunSeeker Sep 2021 #20
Good lord . . . somebody better tell her. Vinca Sep 2021 #21
How did she get through Harvard? Harvard must be very upset, all these republican idiots who Escurumbele Sep 2021 #22
Yeah - don't let the facts get in the way BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #23
To really protect us from socialist healthcare schemes IronLionZion Sep 2021 #24
This is a joke, right? NellieStarbuck Sep 2021 #25
Hint: Ronald McDonald doesn't really care if "you're lovin' it" Bucky Sep 2021 #30
America's herioc job creators need another tax cut to save us from those Socialism elitists!! Bucky Sep 2021 #26
These reQublicOns always love to paint socialism as something evil KS Toronado Sep 2021 #27
She's got a Harvard degree? DinahMoeHum Sep 2021 #28
Yes she understands perfectly what she is saying. Caliman73 Sep 2021 #29
Well said. CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #35
Without a Scooby-Doo diagram, it means nothing. n/t Harker Sep 2021 #31
Good Lord, the stupidity of these folks is off the charts ashredux Sep 2021 #32
Maybe, maybe not... Think about the less obvious... Pluvious Sep 2021 #33
Wait, wut? n/t TygrBright Sep 2021 #34
"Marxist Takeover"! appalachiablue Sep 2021 #36
And she graduated from Harvard? SergeStorms Sep 2021 #37
She is my Rep. mgardener Sep 2021 #38
This is the intellectual who took over your job Liz Cheney! jcgoldie Sep 2021 #39
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! malaise Sep 2021 #40
Any stupider Jerry2144 Sep 2021 #41
What an embarrassment! Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #42
Whaaaaat? spanone Sep 2021 #44

SCantiGOP

(13,875 posts)
6. Keep the government out of my Medicare!
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:22 AM
Sep 2021

Probably the single stupidest comment made during the Obamacare debates.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,925 posts)
9. Oh, dear lord.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:28 AM
Sep 2021

I'm old enough to remember doctors screaming the Medicare was Socialism back when it was enacted.

thucythucy

(8,109 posts)
43. Reagan recorded TV ads against it
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:10 AM
Sep 2021

and campaigned against it, arguing it was the first step to communism.

Then, when President Carter called him on it during the debate, he lied and denied and turned it into a joke.

And the media of course let him get away with it.

DeeNice

(575 posts)
10. I was willing to bet based on your post title
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:31 AM
Sep 2021

that this was either Boebert or Marge.
I guess they are making a squad of their own.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
16. She takes Republian Stupid to a whole new level
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:26 PM
Sep 2021

Or is it Republican liar to a whole new level. Such utter false bullshit.

RVN VET71

(2,699 posts)
18. America's democratic aspirations are being destroyed
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:27 PM
Sep 2021

by a fascist army of stupid people.Stefanik knows her post is laughably ignorant to any informed, intelligent person. But she also knows her constituents too well.

bahboo

(16,380 posts)
19. she knows exactly what she said...
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:31 PM
Sep 2021

these people aren't stupid...they're evil. All her audience will see is "Socialist healthcare schemes."

Escurumbele

(3,407 posts)
22. How did she get through Harvard? Harvard must be very upset, all these republican idiots who
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:37 PM
Sep 2021

graduated there are making fools of themselves, they are willingly showing how ignorant they are....

I hope Stefanik got some tweets back...

NellieStarbuck

(266 posts)
25. This is a joke, right?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:44 PM
Sep 2021

I mean, surely she's not that stupid. Or is it that she knows the MAGAts are that stupid?

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
30. Hint: Ronald McDonald doesn't really care if "you're lovin' it"
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:50 PM
Sep 2021

Everything Republicans say is marketing slogans. They don't give a damn about policy or substance. That's why hypocrisy doesn't bother them. It'd be like a truck driver being bothered by getting mud on his tires. It's just something that happens when you do your job.

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
26. America's herioc job creators need another tax cut to save us from those Socialism elitists!!
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:45 PM
Sep 2021

Bookmark this post. A year from now, it won't be satire anymore.

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
29. Yes she understands perfectly what she is saying.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:49 PM
Sep 2021

Unlike Boebert and Greene who are actually ignorant and one would argue, stupid, Stefanik is educated and has a history of being known as an intellectual.

A Democratic colleague spoke to this a few months back and was disturbed not about what she was saying, but about her mendacity and the ease with which she seems to have taken on this "bubblehead" approach.

Here is the thing fellow DUers.

She understands that conservatives are generally uninformed and incurious. When we liberals see Medicaid/Medicare and "evil socialism" together in a phrase, we know that there is something wrong. We can see (if not entirely correctly) that the two programs are government payor systems for healthcare, and while they are not "Socialist" in the sense of the workers owning the means of production, they are a form of Social Democracy and definitely hue toward a socialistic ideal. We can see the bullshit in the statement.

Conservatives DON'T either by volition or by ignorance. They are trained to respond to Symbols, not to arguments. They see the "mask" as a symbol of tyranny, where we see it as a tool made of cloth, that we use to protect ourselves and others from spreading disease. They see a gun and think of power, manhood, protection, etc... where we see the complexities of firearms, where they can be recreational, used for protection, but also very dangerous and deadly making it easy for people with bad intentions to do very bad things. Our thinking is complex and nuanced. Conservatives tend to think in binary fashion, "It is this, or it is that" and they encode information emotionally. We all do, but liberals tend to be able to move beyond the emotional response and consider other information.

Stefanik knows her audience and it isn't "the American people" it is a very specific group of voters that they have to keep engaged so that they can keep elections close enough to win by technicality or by "hook or crook".

She isn't stupid, she is evil.

Pluvious

(4,332 posts)
33. Maybe, maybe not... Think about the less obvious...
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:55 PM
Sep 2021

( from a friend whom I shared this with... )

But is she being stupid here, or disingenuous? She went to Harvard, earning a BA in government. She should know better. She's specifically using language disassociating Medicare with Socialism to give her an out so that she can ostensibly support a popular social program while also denouncing Socialism.

At best, she really is stupid about this. At worst, she's cynically manipulating her supporters.

I dunno. I don't trust her at all. She went from being a run-of-the-mill moderate northeastern Republican to MAGA enthusiast. She says what she has to in order to get ahead.


In poker, we call this type of deceptive "leveling" as a false-tell.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
37. And she graduated from Harvard?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:03 PM
Sep 2021

She wasted her money, or someone wasted their money, is more like it. What a dolt.

Public College education is looking better and better all the time.

Jerry2144

(2,126 posts)
41. Any stupider
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:13 PM
Sep 2021

And we would have to place her on the window sill and water her daily. I have a begonia as smart as she is

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