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FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:31 PM Sep 2021

Pelosi: Bipartisan infrastructure vote will happen Monday

House Democrats will honor their commitment to moderates and vote early next week on a $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Friday. "It will come up on Monday," the Speaker told reporters just outside the Capitol. Whether the bill will pass, however, remains an open question. And liberals are already predicting it won't.

"It cannot pass," Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), the head of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said Friday. "I don't bluff, I don't grandstand. We just don't have the votes for it." Behind Jayapal, liberal lawmakers have been lining up by the dozen to oppose the infrastructure bill, not to protest the policy, but because they want to vote first on a larger, $3.5 trillion social spending package that stands as the second piece of President Biden's two-part domestic agenda.

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Pelosi announced Friday that House Democrats are hoping to finalize the reconciliation bill and bring it to the floor sometime next week — a bid to satisfy the liberals threatening to sink the infrastructure bill. But given the outstanding divisions between House liberals and Senate centrists on the larger bill, it's unclear if those negotiations will bear fruit in time to meet that ambitious schedule.

Liberals, meanwhile, are skeptical that whatever reconciliation bill emerges will satisfy their demands for expanding the nation's safety net programs, tackling climate change and overhauling the immigration system."It's not going to give us any comfort to pass a bill that then the Senate [defeats]," said Jayapal. "That doesn't satisfy our requirements."


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/573840-pelosi-bipartisan-infrastructure-vote-will-happen-monday
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AZSkiffyGeek

(11,023 posts)
1. She doesn't grandstand?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:40 PM
Sep 2021

Coming out and saying she won't vote for a bill supported by Biden is as much grandstanding as what Manchin does. Except Manchin ends up coming around and voting with the President.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
2. True enough. I think she's trying really hard to block the vote
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:49 PM
Sep 2021

I think she's worried that enough republicans will show up to overcome the CPC members who vote "no".

Saying "we don't have the votes for it" isn't persuasive when you want the bill to die. You would just kill it on the floor.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
7. Unless Gottheimer can round up 40 Republicans to vote yes, he might just ask for a delay
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:07 PM
Sep 2021

I think there’s 5 GOP reps on record saying they will vote yes, versus at least 40 CPC member who are committed to voting no on Monday.

If Gottheimer finds 35 more Republicans by Monday, and the bill passes, Manchin won’t just get his “pause”, he’ll get a funeral for Biden’s agenda, as all leverage will quickly evaporate…

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
11. I don't think Gottheimer needs to find any republicans
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:11 PM
Sep 2021

I think the republicans might do it themselves just to stick it to the CPC and kill the more progressive elements of the larger bill.

If Jayapal wasn't worried about this possibility, she wouldn't be pressing so hard to keep the vote from happening... she would just kill it on the floor.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
4. Biden supports passing both bills together, as does Jayapal
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:02 PM
Sep 2021

On most issues, Manchin hides behind the filibuster, so he doesn’t have to vote against the president because there isn’t a vote. He is however, saying he won’t for the reconciliation bill if it comes in at $3.5 trillion.

Jayapal is only saying her caucus won’t vote for the bipartisan bill before the vote on the reconciliation bill.

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
5. All sides should vote for both
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:03 PM
Sep 2021

How hard is it to just support both bills? It seems money gets in the way of things getting done.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
12. Do you think Warren and Sanders will support a gutted bill with no $ for climate change?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:14 PM
Sep 2021

Because that’s what will happen if the bipartisan bill passes first and Manchin is in charge of writing the climate portion of the bill.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
14. Over nothing at all?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:29 PM
Sep 2021

Yes.

Because that’s what will happen if the bipartisan bill passes first and Manchin is in charge of writing the climate portion of the bill.

And was exactly what the moderates in both houses wanted.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
9. Different disasters from different perspectives
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:09 PM
Sep 2021

45 CPC members voting "no" and the bill passing anyway would only be a disaster for Jayapal and others voting no.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
13. The problem with voting on a reconciliation bill
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:16 PM
Sep 2021

Next week is that it in no way will match what ultimately comes out of the Senate. The liberals are going to be unhappy with the bill the Senate returns to them.

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