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Uncle Joe

(58,272 posts)
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 06:53 PM Sep 2021

'You Tell Me What We Should Cut': Sanders Not Budging on $3.5 Trillion



"The question we face right now is: at this moment, do we have the courage to keep faith with the American people and show them that their democracy in fact can work for them, and not just powerful special interests?" Sanders said. "Let us go forward, let us do the right thing, let us pass this $3.5 trillion reconciliation package."

As conservative Democrats attempt to pare back the legislation, Sanders stressed that the $3.5 trillion plan would make major investments in climate action and child care, establish universal pre-K and paid family leave, and expand Medicare to include dental, vision, and hearing benefits. The Vermont senator went on to declare that the bill—which corporate lobbying groups are working hard to tank—"should and will be fully paid for" by raising taxes on the rich and big businesses, and by lowering prescription drug prices.

"This legislation takes an important step forward," Sanders said. "It doesn't go as far as it should, but it is a major step forward in transforming our energy system away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and sustainable energy."



Sen. Bernie Sanders on Thursday challenged members of the media—and conservative Democrats—to specifically cite which portions of the emerging budget reconciliation package they would remove to lower the proposal's $3.5 trillion price tag, which some lawmakers have characterized as excessive.

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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/23/you-tell-me-what-we-should-cut-sanders-not-budging-35-trillion

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'You Tell Me What We Should Cut': Sanders Not Budging on $3.5 Trillion (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sep 2021 OP
3.5 T is what Joe promised Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2021 #1
We should go with Rep Jayapal's idea qazplm135 Sep 2021 #2
+++ KPN Sep 2021 #4
DURec leftstreet Sep 2021 #3
He makes the points clearly and succinctly. If only McConnell's constituents gave a damn. JudyM Sep 2021 #5
Force the Minority Leader to say it publicly gratuitous Sep 2021 #6
With out knowing the exact language it's hard to say what could be cut but questionseverything Sep 2021 #7
What if they hadn't of been there in the first place? Uncle Joe Sep 2021 #8
I also wonder if it's the standard 6 weeks off questionseverything Sep 2021 #9
In Canada paid mat leave is 12-18 mos, cost shared by employer, government and employee Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #12
I don't think talking about paid leave is even fair when so many questionseverything Sep 2021 #14
It's all part of the same conversation- everyone should have healthcare, paid leave, living wage. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #17
He should be asking this of the dems who wont pass it as is Fullduplexxx Sep 2021 #10
Choices DET Sep 2021 #11
Missing a pay check or two would indeed cripple many families Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #13
Priorities DET Sep 2021 #15
Money for new roads should be cut. ANY new roads. Ron Green Sep 2021 #16

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
2. We should go with Rep Jayapal's idea
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:00 PM
Sep 2021

shorten the time frame.

Make it over 5 years and you reduce to under 2 trillion.

JudyM

(29,185 posts)
5. He makes the points clearly and succinctly. If only McConnell's constituents gave a damn.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:09 PM
Sep 2021

They somehow prefer to believe their mealymouthed viper instead.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Force the Minority Leader to say it publicly
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:11 PM
Sep 2021

McConnell wants to cut Social Security and Medicare, two fully-funded programs that don't contribute to the deficit, and he'd do that years before he'd ever ask his wealthy benefactors to contribute one more nickel to support the country that's made them so wealthy.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
7. With out knowing the exact language it's hard to say what could be cut but
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:14 PM
Sep 2021

I am not a big backer of 3 year old pre-k

I also would like to know the details of paid family leave because when i was young there were many times at the restaurant I worked at, 3 or 4 girls could be on maternity leave at the same time.

If that little restaurant would of been responsible for paying their time off, it wouldn’t of survived

Uncle Joe

(58,272 posts)
8. What if they hadn't of been there in the first place?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:21 PM
Sep 2021


"I also would like to know the details of paid family leave because when i was young there were many times at the restaurant I worked at, 3 or 4 girls could be on maternity leave at the same time."



Would the owner have to pay more in wages?

As you, I don't know all the details either of how the language of the bill turns out.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
9. I also wonder if it's the standard 6 weeks off
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:33 PM
Sep 2021

Or more( I have heard as high as 3 months)

To me the most important parts of this bill are making the child tax credit permanent and broadening what medicare covers for seniors (hearing aids, glasses and dental)

Fiendish Thingy

(15,544 posts)
12. In Canada paid mat leave is 12-18 mos, cost shared by employer, government and employee
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:34 PM
Sep 2021

Employees contribute to unemployment insurance fund.

America can afford universal paid parental leave.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
14. I don't think talking about paid leave is even fair when so many
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:38 PM
Sep 2021

Of us , either have no insurance or can’t afford to use it

DET

(1,298 posts)
11. Choices
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:18 PM
Sep 2021

I would imagine that there could be significant cost savings by means testing some of these programs. Personally, I’m not a fan of paid maternity leave; a missing pay check for two months is not going to cripple most families. But I would like to see better options for senior care, which can exhaust family members (especially women) both physically and financially.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,544 posts)
13. Missing a pay check or two would indeed cripple many families
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:36 PM
Sep 2021

Creating a wave of homelessness and child neglect.

Most civilized nation have paid mat leave- Canada has 12-18 months paid leave.

America can afford it.

DET

(1,298 posts)
15. Priorities
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:03 PM
Sep 2021

America COULD afford it if we eliminated Trump’s ‘middle class’ tax cuts, made large corporations actually pay taxes, drastically reduced the obscenely large defense budget, and so on. But the reality is that most of that isn’t going to happen. Another reality is that none of the human infrastructure proposals are going to happen if the bill isn’t passed, which means making concessions to conservative Democrats like Manchin - whether we like it or not.

Manchin and other conservatives are demanding presumably significant cost cuts, which means prioritizing what’s in the bill. In the whole hierarchy of needs, I think that programs to address climate change and the environment have to come first. Everything else should be prioritized by its ability to create the most benefit for the most people who are truly in need. Personally, I think that paid maternity leave is near the bottom, but I realize that this is not a popular opinion.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
16. Money for new roads should be cut. ANY new roads.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:00 AM
Sep 2021

We have to figure out which ones to fix and which to close.

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