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RandySF

(58,488 posts)
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 04:08 AM Sep 2021

Massive Asteroid Flew By Earth Before Scientists Even Saw It

Some days, scientists find asteroids months before they're expected to pass by our planet. Other days, those same crews may not notice a warehouse-sized asteroid zoomed by Earth until...well, it already zoomed by. That's the case recently with an asteroid officials are now calling 2021 SG, a space-faring rock that passed by the planet on September 16th — only scientists weren't able to see it because it came from the direction of the sun.

According to data released by the NASA-backed Minor Planet Center, 2021 SG has a diameter of anywhere between 42 meters and 94 meters. For non-scientists, that's roughly 138 feet to 308 feet. In comparison, it's about the size of Cinderella's Castle at Walt Disney World so, yeah, a hefty chunk of rock.

EarthSky suggests the asteroid passed by the planet at a distance comparable to half the distance from this planet to the moon. NASA considers anything passing by the planet within 121 million miles a "Near-Earth Object," meaning 2021 SG most certainly meets the qualifications. A similar asteroid broke up over Chelyabinsk, Russia in 2013 and sent shockwaves through six cities in the area. Around 1,500 Russians had to seek medical attention after the event, largely as a result of broken glass and flying debris.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicbook.com/irl/amp/news/massive-asteroid-2021-sg-warehouse-sized-zoom-by-earth/



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Massive Asteroid Flew By Earth Before Scientists Even Saw It (Original Post) RandySF Sep 2021 OP
That was close. Too close. brush Sep 2021 #1
Metric measurements are NORMAL for the world. US Exceptionalism "for scientists" & US Army. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #2
It's not clear whether a Cinderella's Castle is a unit of length, cross sectional area or volume? Klaralven Sep 2021 #9
back in my day ... DBoon Sep 2021 #33
How many washing machines was this asteroid? Swede Sep 2021 #17
Explain please MuseRider Sep 2021 #19
You, Swede and Klaralven are very funny :) Good riffing off the Castle units idea! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #25
Fix your tracker link and credit the source! Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #3
Lighten up..... USALiberal Sep 2021 #11
Bless your heart! I would never have thought of your helpful suggestion! Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #14
Interesting left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #4
Half the distance from here to the Moon? PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #5
An inch is as good as a mile, eh? PJMcK Sep 2021 #7
Yep. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #31
It's a big ass sky radicalleft Sep 2021 #6
Maybe next time. twodogsbarking Sep 2021 #8
Hmmm! newdayneeded Sep 2021 #10
Yes.....but the odds are in your favor..... paleotn Sep 2021 #13
Exactly. However, detecting such objects does not cause them MineralMan Sep 2021 #15
Be sure to publish the predicted impact location in nearby red states so they can rush there to get Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #26
I hadn't considered that. You're probably right, though. MineralMan Sep 2021 #27
Seems we've had a lot of rocks doing fly-bys lately Fullduplexxx Sep 2021 #12
Probably the same rate as ever Sympthsical Sep 2021 #24
Sorry ... my bad dweller Sep 2021 #16
It would hit like a multi-megaton warhead NickB79 Sep 2021 #18
I'm kinda surprised we don't get more meteor/asteroid impacts Marius25 Sep 2021 #20
First edhopper Sep 2021 #21
See, that reference totally made it for me Sympthsical Sep 2021 #23
True edhopper Sep 2021 #32
That writer's shade tho . . . Sympthsical Sep 2021 #22
Many non-scientists also understand metric measurements. MineralMan Sep 2021 #28
The typical asteroid is travelling at about 18 km/s when it hits Earth MineralMan Sep 2021 #29
Not to worry. There are plenty of Jewish Space Lasers on the job. Tommymac Sep 2021 #30
 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
9. It's not clear whether a Cinderella's Castle is a unit of length, cross sectional area or volume?
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 07:41 AM
Sep 2021

If it's diameter were twice as large, would its size be 2, 4 or 8 Cinderella's Castles?

Swede

(33,203 posts)
17. How many washing machines was this asteroid?
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:56 AM
Sep 2021

A sinkhole roughly the size of six to seven washing machines has closed the northbound lanes of State Line Road near 100th Street in Kansas City, Missouri.


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Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
3. Fix your tracker link and credit the source!
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 05:06 AM
Sep 2021

Google does not need to know the reading habits of Democrats.

Is the source reliable? Who knows?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
31. Yep.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 02:17 PM
Sep 2021

While not quite the same, I'll offer this. In about 4 or 5 billion years from now (brace yourself) our galaxy, Milky Way, will collide with the nearest large galaxy, Andromeda. Milky Way has about 300 billion stars. Andromeda is easily three times as large and has about one trillion stars. A while back I asked My Son The Astronomer just how many of those stars would actually crash into each other when the two galaxies merge, and he said, "Well we're not sure, but probably no more than ten."

That tells you just how vast interstellar distances are.

Okay, so a bunch more stars will probably interact gravitationally,, but still. Interstellar distances are truly vast.

I've gotten so I hate those depictions of stars in the galaxy that show then streaming by as if very close together. Sigh. They are n=ot remotely that close together.

And while we're talking, can we discuss all of the many types of radiation out there and how you'd be totally exposed to all of it traveling within our solar system.

newdayneeded

(1,954 posts)
10. Hmmm!
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 08:06 AM
Sep 2021

So what you're saying is tomorrow a rock twice that big could hit the earth with no warning, shielded by the sun's rays? Sleep tight everyone.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
15. Exactly. However, detecting such objects does not cause them
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:28 AM
Sep 2021

to move and miss the Earth. At this time, we have zero capability to change the path of an asteroid of any size. So, we might get a warning from these programs that look for near earth asteroids, but that's it. There's nothing that can be done to prevent a collision.

So, I'm not sure how valuable a warning might be, unless it could pinpoint the location far enough ahead of time to allow for evacuation. That seems very unlikely to me.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
26. Be sure to publish the predicted impact location in nearby red states so they can rush there to get
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:55 AM
Sep 2021

... rush there to get good viewing positions!

You can be sure that if the location was to be published a bunch of anti-science protestors would go there right underneath.

Sympthsical

(9,038 posts)
24. Probably the same rate as ever
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:28 AM
Sep 2021

As technology improves, we just spot them more and more.

I think if we knew just how much stuff is taking a shot at us at any given time, we'd be a continuously nervous people.

But hey, at least we figured out WR 104 - a massive star - isn't actually going to blow our faces off with a gamma ray burst. That was a legitimate concern for quite awhile.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
18. It would hit like a multi-megaton warhead
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:58 AM
Sep 2021

Not an extinction level event, but definitely enough to take out any city on Earth.

edhopper

(33,479 posts)
21. First
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:47 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sat Sep 25, 2021, 04:03 PM - Edit history (1)

in terms of asteroids, 42-94 meters is far from massive. It is barely a large rock.
And "Cinderella's Castle: has to be the weirdest reference.
Why not a large yacht, a 10 story building, a blimp. Cinderella's Castle is the last thing I think of in terms of astronomical objects.
And which Castle, Disneyland or Disneyworld?

Sympthsical

(9,038 posts)
23. See, that reference totally made it for me
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:14 AM
Sep 2021

I was like, "Where the hell did the writer have that comparison floating in their head?" (It was Disney World)

50-100 meters is massive when considering the kinds of damage it could do. It would be catastrophic if it hit somewhere populated, particularly a large city. That Russian meteor back in 2013 was significantly smaller - only 20 meters - and did quite a bit of damage.

Scientists clock Tunguska at around 65 meters.

100 meters would pretty much destroy NYC if it hit. Even if it blew up in the atmosphere, the shock wave would destroy quite a bit, fires would start everywhere, and there'd be significant death.

Those things slap.

Sympthsical

(9,038 posts)
22. That writer's shade tho . . .
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:03 AM
Sep 2021
has a diameter of anywhere between 42 meters and 94 meters. For non-scientists, that's roughly 138 feet to 308 feet.


Shots fired!

He was this close to comparing it to units of football field. (The upper limit actually was pretty much the size of a football field)

But then he pulls that Disney reference out of thin air, so I'll allow it.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
28. Many non-scientists also understand metric measurements.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:05 PM
Sep 2021

More probably should, it seems to me. It's not all that difficult, really.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
29. The typical asteroid is travelling at about 18 km/s when it hits Earth
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:17 PM
Sep 2021

About 40,000 mph. Unless we're looking in the right direction, we won't detect most of them. I mean, we're looking for them, but it's not surprising that some don't get detected.

Even if we did, all we could do about it is provide some sort of warning that a collision was about to occur. Problem is: We won't be able to predict the point of impact until the asteroid is getting close. Think about it. At that speed, traveling the distance between the Earth and the Moon would take about 6 hours at that speed. Not much time to evacuate, I'd think.

We live in a cluttered region of space. The Earth gets slammed from time to time by asteroids of that size. Not much warning is possible, really, particularly for one that isn't detected far from the Earth.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
30. Not to worry. There are plenty of Jewish Space Lasers on the job.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:02 PM
Sep 2021

This has to be true, a member of Congress said so.

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