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LAS14

(13,777 posts)
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:50 PM Sep 2021

Why was Giuliani banned from Fox News? News stories that I've found don't say.

Last edited Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:24 PM - Edit history (1)

TIA
LAS

EDIT: More is going on than just Giuliani and his son.

"It’s not just Giuliani. Senior Trump aides have found it difficult to get bookings on Fox News or even coverage of stories that are damaging to their enemies or positive for Trump." Politico

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/09/24/scoop-fox-to-rudy-youre-banned-494458

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Why was Giuliani banned from Fox News? News stories that I've found don't say. (Original Post) LAS14 Sep 2021 OP
Because like the trumps he is pwb Sep 2021 #1
I think they have a hard time getting him on before he starts hitting the sauce. By time for the brewens Sep 2021 #2
lawsuits. and the fact that he was always too drunk to keep his mouth shut. mopinko Sep 2021 #3
+ struggle4progress Sep 2021 #9
speculating stopdiggin Sep 2021 #4
He drank all of Hannity's booze lame54 Sep 2021 #5
winner. mopinko Sep 2021 #10
That's such a low bar for Fux. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #6
More is going on than just Giuliani and his son. LAS14 Sep 2021 #7
Inky bald spot. Alcohol abuser. Liability Tetrachloride Sep 2021 #8
Fear of lawsuits - they don't know what that lunatic is likely to say Ocelot II Sep 2021 #11
The Politico story said the order came directly from the top, Tomconroy Sep 2021 #12
Rupert's son, Lachlan, most likely Sympthsical Sep 2021 #15
Too embarrassing even for them relayerbob Sep 2021 #13
Lachlan Murdoch isn't a Trumpist Sympthsical Sep 2021 #14
Thanks! This is the kind of stuff I count on getting from DU! nt LAS14 Sep 2021 #17
Fox wants to lessen the chance of Dominion lawsuits LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #16

brewens

(13,557 posts)
2. I think they have a hard time getting him on before he starts hitting the sauce. By time for the
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:55 PM
Sep 2021

evening shows, he's three sheets to the wind.

mopinko

(70,067 posts)
3. lawsuits. and the fact that he was always too drunk to keep his mouth shut.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:56 PM
Sep 2021

got nothing to do w the fact that everything comes out of his mouth being a lie.

stopdiggin

(11,285 posts)
4. speculating
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:58 PM
Sep 2021

perhaps because he is a gibbering pathetic mess - that even the base regard as off putting and unbelievable?

LAS14

(13,777 posts)
7. More is going on than just Giuliani and his son.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:22 PM
Sep 2021

"It’s not just Giuliani. Senior Trump aides have found it difficult to get bookings on Fox News or even coverage of stories that are damaging to their enemies or positive for Trump." Politico

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/09/24/scoop-fox-to-rudy-youre-banned-494458

Ocelot II

(115,656 posts)
11. Fear of lawsuits - they don't know what that lunatic is likely to say
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:51 PM
Sep 2021

about Dominion or anyone else that might have a credible libel claim, and they don't want to provide a platform that would justify naming them as a defendant along with Rudy.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
12. The Politico story said the order came directly from the top,
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:56 PM
Sep 2021

Which has to mean Rupert Murdoch. Maybe he's done with Trump, at least for now.

Sympthsical

(9,061 posts)
15. Rupert's son, Lachlan, most likely
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 02:18 PM
Sep 2021

He runs the network now and isn't a fan of Trump by all accounts.

Now that Trump's devolved into full discredited crazy outside of his rump, he probably sees the opportunity to distance. When Trump was president, it wasn't possible.

Sympthsical

(9,061 posts)
14. Lachlan Murdoch isn't a Trumpist
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 02:12 PM
Sep 2021

He took over running Fox News about three years ago. I read conservative/right-wing news and blogs often enough to know that they loathe Lachlan. Absolutely hate.

Pretty interesting Vanity Fair blurb about him from two years ago.

James Murdoch, son of Fox News founder and conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch, is planning to invest around $1 billion in media companies—possibly including a liberal-leaning outlet. As the Financial Times reported on Tuesday, the 46-year-old, a former 21st Century Fox chief who is also expected to use his more-than-$2 billion haul from the sale of the company’s entertainment holdings to Disney to fund a comic-book publisher, has long played the role of black sheep of the Murdoch dynasty: left-leaning and, according to The New York Times, “increasingly troubled by Fox News” in the age of Donald Trump. But the possibility of funding a rival to the right-wing empire that made his father a household name could represent a new course for the younger Murdoch—and a complication of the Murdoch legacy.

Sources with “direct knowledge” of James’s plans told the Financial Times that he “wanted to distance himself from the conservative media outlets controlled for decades by his father but had yet to decide how exactly he would invest in the news media.” They added that he was eyeing a range of options, and that the process was “at an early stage.” (The F.T. could not immediately reach James Murdoch for comment.) The potential move would in part reflect the complex family dynamics between Rupert, James, and Lachlan Murdoch, the latter of whom recently took over at Fox. James had long sought to run the company, but struck out on his own last year after the reins were handed to his brother.

The report also embodies shifting political attitudes among a new generation of Murdochs. Rupert, the right-wing kingmaker, is a close ally of the president—a regular Fox News viewer who at times has seemed to use his office to help the network and hurt its rivals. But Lachlan, now the chair of the Fox Corporation, is a libertarian conservative who “doesn’t like Trump,” as one of his associates told my colleague Gabriel Sherman. That has some MAGA fans inside Fox concerned that the older Murdoch will lead the network in a less Trumpian direction. Trump himself has in recent days expressed disappointment in his beloved channel, tweeting Tuesday that it was “weird” to see Bernie Sanders in a Fox-hosted town hall, and questioning the network’s hiring of former Democratic National Committee interim chair Donna Brazile. “What’s with @FoxNews?” Trump asked, slipping in a telltale “we” in his earlier tweet.


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/rupert-murdoch-liberal-son-james-takes-shot-at-fox-news

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,046 posts)
16. Fox wants to lessen the chance of Dominion lawsuits
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 04:46 PM
Sep 2021

See https://www.salon.com/2021/09/24/rudy-giuliani-lashes-out-at-fox-news-calls-his-ban-from-network-outrageous/

The alleged ban comes on the heels of a long-brewing legal feud between Fox News, Giuliani, and Dominion Voting Systems. Back in March, Dominion filed a sweeping $1.6 billion lawsuit against Fox News, Guliani, and host of Donald Trump affiliates for promulgating the former president's baseless allegations of widespread fraud in the 2020 election. The software giant argued that the channel "recklessly disregarded the truth" and "endorsed, repeated, and broadcast[ed] a series of verifiably false yet devastating lies about Dominion."

Also in the mix is Smartmatic's $2.6 billion lawsuit against Fox News, which alleges complaints of a similar nature, citing that the channel granted Giuliani a platform to spout unsubstantiated claims about election fraud. Fox has since filed a motion to dismiss Dominion's lawsuit and is also urging a court to shoot down Smartmatic's.

Giuliani, for his part, has backtracked somewhat on his claims of election fraud, saying back in August that his claims were "substantially true," while admitting that he didn't understand how Dominion's voting software works. Earlier that month, a 2018 deposition transcript was unveiled in which Giuliani effectively admits to the FBI that he had used Fox News to promote "fake news" about Hillary Clinton's campaign during the 2016 election.
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