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Trip Gabriel
@tripgabriel
The rights snap dismissal of the conclusion of AZs partisan review - the Biden really did win - shows it was never about restoring confidence in elections; it was the predicate for making it harder to vote, in AZ and around the country.
A Republican review of 2020 election results in Maricopa County, the largest county in Arizona, was widely criticized as a partisan fishing expedition.
Stop the Steal Movement Races Forward, Ignoring Arizona Humiliation
As a Republican review of 2020 votes in Arizona sputtered to a close, Donald Trump and his allies signaled that their attack on the election, and their drive to reshape future elections, were far...
nytimes.com
10:48 AM · Sep 25, 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/us/politics/arizona-election-audit-analysis.html?referringSource=articles hare
After all the scurrying, searching, sifting, speculating, hand-counting and bamboo-hunting had ended, Republicans post-mortem review of election results in Arizonas largest county wound up only adding to President Bidens margin of victory there.
But for those who have tried to undermine confidence in American elections and restrict voting, the actual findings of the Maricopa County review that were released on Friday did not appear to matter in the slightest. Former President Donald J. Trump and his loyalists redoubled their efforts to mount a full-scale relitigation of the 2020 election.
Any fleeting thought that the failure of the Arizona exercise to unearth some new trove of Trump votes or a smoking gun of election fraud might derail the so-called Stop the Steal movement dissipated abruptly. As draft copies of the report began to circulate late Thursday, Trump allies ignored the new tally, instead zeroing in on the reports specious claims of malfeasance, inconsistencies and errors by election officials.
Significant parts of the right treated the completion of the Arizona review as a vindication offering a fresh canard to justify an accelerated push for new voting limits and measures to give Republican state lawmakers greater control over elections. It also provided additional fuel for the older lie that is now central to Mr. Trumps political identity: that the 2020 election was stolen from him.
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msongs
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Paul Egan
@paulegan4
State Rep. Matt Maddock, R-Milford, from the #MIGOP Mackinac podium just now on election integrity: "No more poll watchers. No more poll challengers. We're going to be the poll workers, next election." #mrlc #voting
1:48 PM · Sep 25, 2021
gulliver
(13,168 posts)It's muggers, abusers, and paranoids pre-demonizing their intended victims. We shouldn't laugh at the "failure" of the AZ fraudit, because, for one thing, it didn't fail. It enlivened them. They'll "double down" on it and thrive on it.
Unless...
We should be using the the AZ fraudit to repeatedly call out the chilling emotional loathsomeness and repugnance of its underlying psychology. Not its cognitive inaccuracy or falsehood. Discounting the Trumpies as "crazy" plays into their hands. Laughing at them as stupid does too. Giving them credit for being dangerous also backfires, because they actually want to be threatening.
We have to make them not want to be "those people," the ones who spoil everything for everyone else and stink up the place. The boring boors. The angry-all-the-times. The get-a-lifes.