professor says big college attendance gender gap will produce "the most dangerous person on earth"

[Demovictory9]

"The lone broke male"

More men are abandoning college. Professor explains why this is dangerous
NYU Professor Scott Galloway says the drop in men going to college is part of a growing mating crisis in the US and that the country runs the risk of producing "too many of the most dangerous cohort in the world" if the trend isn't reversed.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/09/25/scott-galloway-women-outnumber-men-going-to-college-bts-smerconish-vpx.cnn

[Hekate]

1. Is he threatening us with incels or what? Is he saying we're breeding insecure, dumb males ...

…who can’t compete if there are “too many” women in college? I mean what exactly is his point?

The US does not have a major gender imbalance like either India or China. Now those countries have a really awful problem that runs to the tens of millions.

So, a cohort of American men is choosing not to go to college. Big deal. There are other ways to train for a career that don’t leave you penniless for 20 years post graduation. We still need plumbers and electricians — which are skilled trades that cannot be outsourced. And there’s no earthly reason they should lack social skills that would make them attractive to women.

“The lone, broke male” — gimme a break.

[OAITW r.2.0]

4. Sounds like that to me. But what's the solution?

Nothing, I think. Smart guys will have a better mating solution than the guys that give up on the system and focuses on drinking with his buds while they complain about how awful "The System" is. If these morans take control.....dat's all folks!"

[Haggard Celine]

10. Some people seem to think that anyone without a college

education is an utter failure. What about all of the people who have degrees and tens of thousands (or more) in debt who can't get a decent job? If you don't have really good grades and if you don't have a profession in mind that absolutely requires a degree, college might not be the best use of your time and money. As you say, we need people in various trades, and many of those jobs pay very well. It's high time people started re-thinking post secondary education.

[Demsrule86]

55. Statistically, those without college earn way less.

"The evidence that a college degree significantly improves one’s employment prospects and earnings potential is overwhelming. Bachelor’s degree holders are half as likely to be unemployed as their peers who only have a high school degree and they make $1 million in additional earnings on average over their lifetime. Also 99% of jobs created after the recession require college.

"Of course, a college education is about more than just securing a job and a steady income. Consider health and safety, prerequisites for leading a fulfilling life. Bachelor’s degree holders are 47 percent more likely to have health insurance provided through their job and their employers contribute 74 percent more to their health coverage. Life expectancy is also longer for those who attend college. Studies suggest that those who have attended at least some college can expect to live seven years longer than their peers with no post-secondary education" .

https://www.aplu.org/projects-and-initiatives/college-costs-tuition-and-financial-aid/publicuvalues/employment-earnings.html

[H2O Man]

17. What he is saying

is that there is a growing crisis among young men, who are not emotionally equipped to handle college. He's not threatening any specific other group, but rather pointing out that there are social costs. While I think too many young people enter college unprepared is a problem, and that while maybe colege isn't for everyone, there should be more trade schools. Indeed, talent in those fields can make one more employable -- and a greater wage-earner -- than graduates with some of the degrees being offered at some colleges.

Being in a trade can lead to being in a union. In my day, unions taught classes on which party was their friend, and which was their enemy. That's no longer being done in some unions. Now, in every generation, there are those who don't have connections, such as a union. There are a lot of them these days, and while a few might be incels, most are more likely to join something like the Trump cult. They believe that they are being cheated, with less employment options and income than their parents' had.

The answer has a lot to do with children & teens being prepared to deal successfully within their family systems and schools.

[Hortensis]

47. Yes. Society's producing greater numbers of disappointed, angry men,

unanchored by responsibilities. Many are finding themselves locked out of the futures of homes and family they'd naturally grown up expecting to have. Of course it's a dangerous trend, and we're already seeing it in the increasing destabilization of society.

[H2O Man]

53. Right.

Scott is a complex character, which is not unusual for members of the Galloway Clanna. I have a life-time of experience of being half-Galloway, and can say that extended family reunions are never dull. But I'm not sure that things always translate well. The majority of the responses on this thread suggest that people interpret what he is saying is part of a battle between the sexes, which is actually the exact opposite of his position.

Rather, he is an advocate of education for everyone. He has taken strong positions against universities that give special treatment to the children of the wealthy -- guys like George W. Bush or Donald Trump, regardless of their intellectual capacities -- and risk denying the same opportunities to a low income or middle class student, such as Barack Obama. He refers to this dynamic as having created a "luxury brand" of education for wealthy families. He has donated millions of dollars to Berkeley and a couple of NYS universities to fund educational opportunities for immigrants -- both male and female. He donates his teaching salary back to the university, because he wants to expand access to quality education for everyone ...... though I am sure he gets a nice tax write-off for this, as well.

I would suggest that people here would find his opinions on some specific corporations interesting. He warned of the dangers of Facebook years ago. It isn't a stretch to connect this with the Russian intelligence's ability to target specific populations in 2016's presidential election -- disaffected, angry males -- to convince them that their friend was their enemy, and their enemy was their friend.

[Hortensis]

54. Absolutely. Most men and women consider contribution to income

in choosing a mate. Romance just automatically includes a picture of a rosy economic future, and the economic sifting starts before couples meet with who gets invitations, introductions, first dates.

He's spot on in advocating further education for everyone in what's become a high tech and college level world.

[joetheman]

44. Most of the trade skills a male needed to survive used to taught in Jr. and Sr. high schools.

Now we have too many men without those skills. We will eventually become like most other western nations...unable or unwilling to BUILD anything but weapons. Which means we will have to have a war somewhere ...

[smirkymonkey]

45. +1000

[treestar]

56. +1

The sexist assumption that the husband must be more educated than the wife. Just as stupid as the one that he must be taller, must be older, must make more money.

[ymetca]

2. Dubious assertion

It's the rich, college-educated men indulging in all the global-scale mass-murdering these days.

Methinks there is a great deal of implicit bias in the assumption that "the lone broke male" is somehow "the most dangerous person on earth", don't you think?

[OAITW r.2.0]

6. I think you are correct.....now.

But 5 years from now? Who knows.

[Skittles]

8. thank you

that's how I see it - it is the rich college-educated assholes who EXPLOIT the fears and racism of the "lone broke male"

[Piasladic]

13. I often wonder about rich, college-educated assholes

What the hell do they learn at Yale? It certainly is not compassion. Maybe we should differentiate between college paid for by daddy that is expected and an actual education.

[oioioi]

18. Yes! It's an old playbook.

In the summer of 1922, Mussolini’s opportunity presented itself. The remnants of the trade-union movement called a general strike. Mussolini declared that unless the government prevented the strike, the Fascists would. Fascist volunteers, in fact, helped to defeat the strike and thus advanced the Fascist claim to power. At a gathering of 40,000 Fascists in Naples on October 24, Mussolini threatened, “Either the government will be given to us, or we will seize it by marching on Rome.” Responding to his oratory the assembled Fascists excitedly took up the cry, shouting in unison “Roma! Roma! Roma!” All appeared eager to march.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Benito-Mussolini/Rise-to-power

Ring any bells?

[Skittles]

30. Trump even looks like il duce

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[LudwigPastorius]

32. Mussolini wasn't as fat as Trump.

...neither was George C. Scott.

[Skittles]

41. and Mussolini did not claim to have bone spurs

he actually served on the front lines in the Italian Army before he became a fascist dictator

[East-A-Squared]

39. You mean Il Douche.

[Sur Zobra]

42. I think that pic is of George C. Scott

portraying Mussolini

[Skittles]

43. updated....he still looks like him

I admit I have very poor eyesight

[smirkymonkey]

46. I can't stand the sight of that hideous face.

At least Mussolini looked somewhat intelligent. Trump looks like an effing lizard posing as a human being. What a stupid, evil looking man. I cannot wait to read his obituary.

[North Shore Chicago]

52. Indeed

Only Lizards look good with lizard faces.

[greenjar_01]

16. This guy is an adjunct in the business school

He has zero training in sociology, gender studies, or any other subject that would make him remotely qualified to be taken any more seriously that the next bozo at the end of the bar in pontificating on this subject. The OP should be ashamed of himself for promoting this clown as a "professor." He teaches marketing at NYU. That's it. He picks up courses for a per course rate.

Is this a subject bearing on his MBA training in marketing? No it is fucking not. So he could just as easily be pontificating ignorantly on astrophysics, or any other specialty not in his field. "Professor says X." Jesus, we used to be better than this on this board.

[Piasladic]

3. Boo Hoo

Boys don't want to learn things that won't bring them instant riches and sex? A well-rounded education gets them what exactly? Oh, good for society, but screw that.

I get the point, but it infuriates me.

[jimfields33]

20. I know plumbers who make more money then college graduates

With a BAchelor’s of sociology. I don’t understand the hate towards trades. We need these tech people.

[Piasladic]

21. completely agree

and they make good money too. I guess my point is we need all sorts of people. Even literature-minded young folks.

[jimfields33]

24. Absolutely.

It takes all of us to make the world go round. I know thats cliche but it is rather true.

[cadoman]

25. I doubt even 25% of the graduates I know are using their degrees....

...and a disturbing number of them accumulated debt going on trips abroad and partying, only to graduate and work basic service jobs.

Meanwhile, my fridge goes out and I go to schedule service and they are booked solid more than two weeks out.

Our training and educational systems are completely out of sync with industry demand. I think there is a misconception that trade labor is disrespected, and in fact I see respect for trade workers at an all time high. Why? Fewer and fewer people can do that work now, to the point that it is magic when someone competent shows up.

[Piasladic]

29. industry demand

How bleak.

Sorry about your fridge, but it's not that hard to fix. There are a lot of helpful, low-quality YouTube videos that might help.

[SWMO_8541]

50. Haha!

My mechanic friends love YouTube.
It brings in more expensive repairs because people screw up more stuff by thinking that these videos can substitute for a mechanic’s experience and training.
“Anyone can rebuild a transmission, I saw a bunch of YouTube videos on how to do it.” Yeah buddy!

[Piasladic]

57. Glad you got my joke

Let 'em pay, Let 'em pay, Let 'em pay.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Macho male ego knows everything already so this is not surprising

[KentuckyWoman]

7. "mating crisis" ?

Granted my chandeliers hang covered in spider webs in a haunted house these days but I don't understand that guys statement or what he's getting at. I watched that whole video and just kept thinking that guy needs to meet Sarah Palin. They can share word salads.

[Baked Potato]

9. I think college educated women will be just fine finding mates.

This sounds like crapola to me. I would love to have more college educated folks of every kind, but worrying about a shortage of college educated males is wasting some ‘F**ks to give.’ IMO

[Ex Lurker]

22. Women will have to learn be okay with a mate of lower socioeconomic status

for that to be the case. Historically women have married men who are equal or higher in status. You see this in the Black community, where there are many more women with college degrees than men--and a lot of them never marry.

[Baked Potato]

34. Points taken. Nt

[RobinA]

38. Will Her Mate

be comfortable being of a lower socioeconomic status?

[Withywindle]

40. Well there are a LOT of insecure men who can't stand the idea of their wife making more money

Generally what they do is try to clip her wings so she stays down to her "proper" level below him.

[diane in sf]

11. Create more training in the trades. Electricians, HVAC, plumbers, etc. all make a good living.

Not everyone needs to go to college. And if you recall, neither Steve Jobs or Bill Gates got degrees.

I’m a college professor…

[oioioi]

12. Australian yobbos in anti-vax riot

Fighting their own union and left wing government after vaccine requirements announced

manipulated by the Murdoch press and right wing propaganda

[greenjar_01]

14. Oh FFS

An "adjunct professor of marketing." This guy has an MBA. He has no qualifications to speak on this matter.

Gimme a break.

[JI7]

15. There are many good reasons one may not go to college

People have other plans in life and may prefer to do something else.

But the ones he is speaking of seem to mostly be loser types that couldn't do well in school or hold a simple job.

It's not lack of college itself that is the problem but it's why they aren't doing anything else. Some oppose any education becsuse of liberals, feminists etc. These same ones would not be able to work with or under any female leadership.

[keithbvadu2]

19. MGTOW - men going their own way - irony

MGTOW - men going their own way - irony

A hard-core, anti-feminist movement.

They love to emphasize/boast that women are losing the men.

B_tchin' about the b_tches.

(Don't worry. Equal opportunity here. Women have their own equivalent, same/same movements.)

https://www.google.com/search?q=mgtow&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com
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https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/politics/article/men-going-their-own-way-movement

The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ movement is the Taliban of the manosphere
But don’t be complacent: their virulent misogyny is going mainstream

By Tony Parsons 21 February 2021
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(((Here is the irony)))

Some MGTOW have platonic relationships with women, while others keep transactions strictly commercial, with sex workers. But what you notice about all of them is that they never stop talking about women. Men sharing their lives with girlfriends, wives and daughters never devote this much time to thinking, talking and obsessing about women.

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(comment from another blog about the author - unknown if by a male or female)... Tony Parsons, a low-IQ mangina boomer, is the author of the GQ article, by the way.

(calling him a p_ssy without using the word)

[Champp]

49. A Republican petulance parade

Grow up, you tossers.

Republicans racing along the devolutionary pathway.

[madville]

23. Hilarious

Pursuing a college education is not the key to financial success or else we wouldn’t have so many people whining about student loans LMAO.

That single broke male that doesn’t go to college could easily pursue a $100k+ career in several trades these days and be in demand.

[MichMan]

26. Probably paying off the student loans of their college educated spouses

[keithbvadu2]

28. The Doctor of Philosphy driving a cab.

The philosophy factories just aren't hiring much these days..

[ymetca]

31. LOL

Yep, that was exactly me, way back when, right down to the stinky cab.

When I realized I could never be as funny as Steve Martin (the only rich philosopher I know), I decided a different occupation was in order.

Since I couldn't pound a nail without banging my thumb, or fix a light switch without electrocuting myself, and every pipe-wrench I, uh wrenched, cross-threaded, I finally found some green in BILL COLLECTING! Then RETAIL SALES! Then COMPUTERS!

Like Aladdin, leaping from one rock to another, sinking into the lava... But then, "No One Gets Out of Here Alive", right?

Hmm... Come to think of it, all that "philosophical" training helped!

[keithbvadu2]

35. Jethro Bodine has a minor in phi in real life

[ymetca]

36. Ah --thanks!

Now I know two!

But, I always suspected he was a genius.

[keithbvadu2]

37. Many hiring folks are impressed with the subject matter of the degree but more impressed that the pe

Many hiring folks are impressed with the subject matter of the degree but more impressed that the person finished what they started.

[Steelrolled]

27. He wasted his 15 minutes of fame.

[betsuni]

33. He says "mating" a lot. I think he watches too many wildlife documentaries.

[leftyladyfrommo]

48. I cwrtainly never judged men by their education level.

I guess there are women that do but I don't think I know any. Maybe the men worried about it but I didn't.

[NickB79]

51. Many women don't want men without a degree

Leaving millions of men alone and angry.

https://www.inc.com/minda-zetlin/marriage-mismatch-husbands-wives-earnings-education-jobs.html

Less well educated, more likely to be unemployed.
Their findings can only be described as depressing. The available single men turned out to be less likely to have jobs than the husbands single women were presumably seeking. (Theoretical husbands had a 90 percent chance of being employed, whereas only 70 percent of available men were.) They were less likely to have a college degree. And the women appeared to be hoping for husbands with a 58 percent higher income than that of actual available men.