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(14,741 posts)Yeah, it's not a solar collector, and it's not turbines, but hey, when have facts stopped them before??
applegrove
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getagrip_already
(14,741 posts)Death valley in the us has birds. The sahara, probably not so much.
But I was being sarcastic. Solar panels have zero impacts on birds. Solar collectors, which are arrays of mirrors pointing at a tower, cqan kill birds flying through the light beans; the same as putting a bug under a magnifying glass can.
The pic shows panels, not mirrors.
applegrove
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VMA131Marine
(4,138 posts)Domestic cats: they kill between 1 and 2 billion birds every year. Wind turbines, by contrast, kill less than 1 million. Want to protect the bird population: keep your cats indoors.
dweller
(23,629 posts)Yes this was a complaint against solar at one time
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Eko
(7,281 posts)Its just a point on the celestial sphere directly below an observer. Some if you will get this, some not.
All joking aside, that is awesome!
hunter
(38,311 posts)... and has a much smaller environmental footprint than the equivalent amount of natural gas primary power combined with supplemental solar power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_Canyon_Power_Plant
Solar plants built on previously undeveloped land are loathsome. How are we saving the natural environment if we destroy it?
Natural gas is today's most dangerous power source because people think it's "clean" and it supports their fantasy "renewable energy" schemes. Gas is going to destroy the world's natural environment as we know it.
Experiments with hybrid solar / wind / gas power systems in California, Denmark, and Germany have failed. These solar and wind projects will only increase our long term dependence on natural gas. The outcome won't be any different in Morocco.
I used to be a very serious anti-nuclear activist. I changed my mind.
We've worked ourselves into a corner. The earth cannot support the current human population without high density energy sources.
Low density energy sources like solar and wind power will not displace fossil fuels.
jeffreyi
(1,939 posts)The solar farms are loathsome. Especially on our public lands. Just crass destruction. And please tell me how they change the "carbon footprint" one whit. Put them on rooftops and abandoned shopping malls where there is infrastructure and they don't obliterate Joshua trees and desert tortoises and the myriad of other flora and fauna in those habitats. For structures that probably have no effect on climate change. And that might last 20 years at most. And the BLM (Bureau of land mgt) is fast tracking this crap. At the behest of the Biden administration.