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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLet Me Make This Pellucidly Clear - the Slobfather started this shit after the 2016 elections
and he still hasn't stopped.
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/04/635668304/member-of-disbanded-trump-voter-fraud-commission-speaks-out
DON GONYEA, HOST:
This is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News. I'm Don Gonyea in for Michel Martin.
We're going to start the program today with news about a commission set up by President Trump to investigate supposed widespread voter fraud. That group was disbanded in January, and no credible evidence was ever presented that would substantiate the president's claims. Now thousands of documents from the commission have been released, and one of the members is speaking out - Matthew Dunlap. He is Maine's Secretary of State, and he was one of four Democrats on the 11-member commission. Matthew Dunlap joins us now. Welcome.
MATTHEW DUNLAP: Thank you for having me.
GONYEA: So, Secretary Dunlap, I - as I understand it, it is your contention that this commission was set up basically to validate a claim made by President Trump that 3 to 5 million people voted illegally in the 2016 election. Is that correct?
DUNLAP: Well, the commission was purported to investigate the claim and make suggestions on ways to improve the integrity of elections. But, as the commission went forward in this work, it became more and more mysterious in how it was moving. And, basically, we were getting walled off. And because we couldn't find out what our own commission was working on, I made a formal inquiry and was told that they were reviewing my request with their legal counsel, which made me scratch my head a little bit. And it led to a court case we ultimately prevailed in. And the court case was premised on the idea that, as an equal member of the commission, I was entitled to the working documents of the commission.
GONYEA: So you filed the lawsuit that has now resulted in the release of those documents. It gives us some glimpse of the workings of the commission. What did you want to bring to light?
DUNLAP: Well, what's remarkable about the documents is what's not in there, and what's not in there is any substantiated evidence of voter misconduct at any scale. In fact, one of the troubling things about the documents that we saw was that before we were even really meeting, commission staff were working on a framework of a report. And several sections of report talk about voter fraud, and those sections are completely blank. They didn't insert any information whatsoever.
So that's why we've been saying that, even though the idea was to investigate voter fraud, it is pretty clear that the purpose of the commission was to actually affirm and validate the president's claims whether or not we had any evidence of any such voter misconduct.
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That phone call to Brad Raffensperger on Jan 2 should have led to his arrest. Following that he had his meetings, held the rally and tried to pull off the coup.
About 3 p.m. Saturday, President Trump held an hour-long call with Brad Raffensperger, Georgias secretary of state, in which he repeatedly urged him to alter the outcome of the presidential vote in the state. He was joined on the call by White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and several lawyers, including longtime conservative attorney Cleta Mitchell and Georgia-based attorney Kurt Hilbert. Raffensperger was joined by his offices general counsel, Ryan Germany, and Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs.
The Washington Post obtained a copy of a recording of the call. This transcript has been edited to remove the name of an individual about whom Trump makes unsubstantiated claims.
Meadows: Okay. Alright. Mr. President, everyone is on the line. This is Mark Meadows, the chief of staff. Just so we all are aware. On the line is secretary of state and two other individuals. Jordan and Mr. Germany with him. You also have the attorneys that represent the president, Kurt and Alex and Cleta Mitchell who is not the attorney of record but has been involved myself and then the president. So Mr. President, Ill turn it over to you.
President Trump had an hour-long conversation with the Georgia secretary of state Saturday.
President Trump had an hour-long conversation with the Georgia secretary of state Saturday. (Alex Edelman/Getty Images)
Trump: Okay, thank you very much. Hello Brad and Ryan and everybody. We appreciate the time and the call. So weve spent a lot of time on this, and if we could just go over some of the numbers, I think its pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. Wed be getting 25-30,000 people a rally, and the competition would get less than 100 people. And it never made sense.
But we have a number of things. We have at least 2 or 3 anywhere from 250 to 300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. Much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasnt been checked. We think that if you check the signatures a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County youll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people who have been forged. And we are quite sure thats going to happen.
Another tremendous number. Were going to have an accurate number over the next two days with certified accountants. But an accurate number will be given, but its in the 50s of thousands and thats people that went to vote and they were told they cant vote because theyve already been voted for. And its a very sad thing. They walked out complaining. But the numbers large. Well have it for you. But its much more than the number of 11,779 thats the current margin is only 11,779. Brad, I think you agree with that, right? Thats something I think everyone at least thats a number that everyone agrees on.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html
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And then he and his goons went further - thankfully the coup failed.
I have my suspicions about that trip to Georgia yesterday.
Let's go Georgia and the Select Committee
Lock up this fucking criminal or this entire planet is doomed.
Champp
(2,114 posts)calimary
(81,209 posts)Not NEARLY enough.
EYESORE 9001
(25,927 posts)He was already spouting the big lie, saying that if he lost, it would be due to the election being rigged.
malaise
(268,913 posts)and when he realized he could not beat Biden he started the Ukrainian shit. ReTHUGs allowed him to remain in office and he merely upped the ante. He should already be in prison
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)No shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's exactly right!
Any Democratic president and accomplices doing what they've done and are still doing would have been immediately locked up "pending investigation and trial".
But that piece of shit and his corrupt family and criminal scumbags are not only STILL roaming free, they're actively working to destroy America.
malaise
(268,913 posts)Lock them up!
Justice matters.
(6,925 posts)I'm sure a substantial majority WANT Equal Justice For All and sick and tired of these crooks getting away scot-free!
malaise
(268,913 posts)in Afghanistan
Justice matters.
(6,925 posts)Wake up Dems. Don't wait until we all live in a fascistic state!
malaise
(268,913 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)Ads from Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, GE (which still owns a lot of NBC Universal) etc.
Not because they expect people like us to buy a jet (we're not), but it's basically a way to buy off the media to ensure favorable coverage and no negative coverage.
Cable news tells the truth about war, and all those millions of ad dollars go down the drain.
malaise
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This is not over, they will try again,Im afraid the way things are right now they might succeed.
cstanleytech
(26,281 posts)votes I doubt any case will be filed in Georgia as Trump could simply claim he only meant that he was asking for the states election officials to make sure they counted all the votes correctly and did not miss any.
Justice matters.
(6,925 posts)cstanleytech
(26,281 posts)unlikely to happen unless some hard evidence comes out that forces the hand of the Republicans in this state to do it.
bucolic_frolic
(43,124 posts)Carving up America for resources is a profitable enterprise for them.