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CousinIT

(9,238 posts)
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:17 PM Sep 2021

Conspiracy theorists lack critical thinking skills: New study

https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/science/2021/07/25/conspiracy-theorists-lack-critical-thinking/

The more people believe in conspiracy theories, the worse they perform on critical thinking tests, a new study has confirmed.

. . .

‘They’re out to get us’ – or so the theory goes
Conspiracy theories are nothing new, but they have greater reach and intensity with the advent of social media.

As explained by Anthony Lantian, an associate professor of psychology at the Paris Nanterre University and a co-author of the new study: “Conspiracy theories refer to attempts to explain the ultimate cause of an important event (social, political, climatic, etc.) by accusing a hidden coalition of perceived malicious and powerful people or organisations of having secretly planned and implemented these events.”

For example, there’s a persistent conspiracy theory that shady figures in the US government were complicit in events of 9/11 – where airliners were flown into the World Trade Centre towers, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania – and the attacks weren’t simply the work of Islamic terrorists.

The QAnon conspiracy theory of a global Satanic network of pedophiles run by political elites is so widespread and powerful that it led to the election of a true believer, Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene, to Congress.


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Conspiracy theorists lack critical thinking skills: New study (Original Post) CousinIT Sep 2021 OP
no surprise... markie Sep 2021 #1
It's Faux pas Sep 2021 #2
I think the way we have taught "critical thinking" in the US greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #3
A Good Point, That, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #4
I'd amend it to, "Believe nothing, critique everything that doesn't fit what you already believe." Sympthsical Sep 2021 #11
What method of education are you rereferring to? LanternWaste Sep 2021 #16
Conspiracy theories are made plausible by knowledge of actual shady shit Klaralven Sep 2021 #5
Proverbs 27:12 roamer65 Sep 2021 #6
it astonishes me that people can't just listen to NPR every morning and leave it at that cadoman Sep 2021 #7
Gee, ya think? Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #8
They seem to be zombie cult members UpInArms Sep 2021 #9
conspiracies are nothing more than agreements to pursue immoral or illegal goals soryang Sep 2021 #10
Yes, the topic here isn't basic. mundane conspiracies, but Grand Conspiracies Silent3 Sep 2021 #13
You mean apart from coups, regime change plots, and presenting soryang Sep 2021 #19
The real conspiracies either only require small numbers of people to be involved... Silent3 Sep 2021 #20
Critical thinking could be taught in schools, starting in kindergarten... hunter Sep 2021 #12
Many who abandon organized religion still go for unorganized superstitious mysticism Silent3 Sep 2021 #14
Thank God! Here I have been afraid that Republicans are trying to destroy our democracy. Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #15
Republicans take advantage of the people who lack critical thinking skills. hunter Sep 2021 #17
Adherence to conspiracy theories is not limited to Republicans StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #21
This just in, water is wet sakabatou Sep 2021 #18
I love that they name MTG in the article... SidDithers Sep 2021 #22

Faux pas

(14,657 posts)
2. It's
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:33 PM
Sep 2021

all connected to the dumbing down of education. Keep them stoopid and afraid and they'll believe ANYTHING.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
3. I think the way we have taught "critical thinking" in the US
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:37 PM
Sep 2021

(i.e., "Believe nothing! Critique everything!" ) actually contributes to our current conspiracy culture.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
11. I'd amend it to, "Believe nothing, critique everything that doesn't fit what you already believe."
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:09 PM
Sep 2021

At least, that's what it commonly morphs into.

I'm a big believer in "Half or more of what the media says is narrative bullshit." But instead of thinking I'm being lied to, I think I'm being either spun to based on reporting biases, or the media are just being lazy and not really checking anything.

So I just go and try to figure out if I can find the provenance of something, if I can see what the ground level facts are of the narrative being presented.

I also ask myself, "Is this plausible, or do I simply want it to be plausible?" It helps clock the bullshit. I see so many untrue things every day.

My biggest example this week from our side is that whipping story at the border. It is still going. People are still making the claims. When I read the first article about it, I immediately went to the source. I looked at where the pictures came from. I looked at the video accompanying it, which was from a different angle and showed the photos' perspective were not giving an accurate portrait.

Then the photographer came out and was like, "Nothing like that happened here."

https://www.ktsm.com/local/el-paso-news/photographer-behind-controversial-photos-speaks-exclusively-to-ktsm/

People are still running with it though. They want it to be true for narrative purposes.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. What method of education are you rereferring to?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:49 PM
Sep 2021

Or is yours just anecdotal and without evidence? (which, given the subject of the thread, would be self-inflicted irony, no?)

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
5. Conspiracy theories are made plausible by knowledge of actual shady shit
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:51 PM
Sep 2021

People with normal amounts of friends and relatives are only 2 or 3 degrees away from people with first-hand knowledge of bad stuff done by governments or powerful private organizations.

Lots of Qanons appear to have had experience in the military, an organization known for secret deeds ranging from the slightly scummy to the outrageously dastardly.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. Proverbs 27:12
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:51 PM
Sep 2021

“The prudent see danger and take refuge, the simple keep going and pay the penalty.”

Vaccines are the refuge for the prudent.

cadoman

(792 posts)
7. it astonishes me that people can't just listen to NPR every morning and leave it at that
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:52 PM
Sep 2021

The best journalists in the world summarizing current events for you and serving it up on a server platter, for free. I guess for some that's just too easy?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6282974/

I do wonder how they define conspiracy theory though, because what is a conspiracy in one region or demographic is fact in another. Don't have access to it but they reference this Bale paper:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00313220601118751

soryang

(3,299 posts)
10. conspiracies are nothing more than agreements to pursue immoral or illegal goals
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:01 PM
Sep 2021

they are commonplace stuff.

Silent3

(15,188 posts)
13. Yes, the topic here isn't basic. mundane conspiracies, but Grand Conspiracies
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:22 PM
Sep 2021

The crap that QAnon believes in, 9/11 "truthers", Area 51 fanatics, etc, aren't simple matters of two or more people colluding to perform an illegal act.

soryang

(3,299 posts)
19. You mean apart from coups, regime change plots, and presenting
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 05:01 PM
Sep 2021

...a false casus belli for war, and the like?

Silent3

(15,188 posts)
20. The real conspiracies either only require small numbers of people to be involved...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 06:29 PM
Sep 2021

...or they pretty much operate right out in the open, depending on propaganda or a public that simply isn't paying enough attention.

The crazy ones are the conspiracies that would require vast networks of people keeping very-hard-to-keep secrets, somehow or another intimidating or buying off countless numbers of people. The crazy conspiracy theories often depend on vague motives -- that "THEY" want to control us for the sake of controlling us, kill us for the sake of killing us, will somehow profit from their Evil Plan in ways the conspiracy-believer feels no need to work out or try to make sense of.

Nutty conspiracies are often stupidly elaborate, when people who would be powerful enough to pull off an imagined conspiracy could much more reliably achieve their supposed goals using simple, direct, and reliable means.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
12. Critical thinking could be taught in schools, starting in kindergarten...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:18 PM
Sep 2021

... but that would further upset parents who have anti-intellectual religious beliefs.

Fortunately many young people are abandoning these religions.

Unfortunately many people who have abandoned these religions still carry the anti-intellectual baggage that was impressed upon them in their youth.

Silent3

(15,188 posts)
14. Many who abandon organized religion still go for unorganized superstitious mysticism
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:26 PM
Sep 2021

As an atheist I'd be much happier if the turn away from organized religion we're seeing was based on logic and reason and science, but I think it's largely due to an emotional reaction to the nastiness of many religious zealots instead. I guess it's an improvement, but not as much as I'd hope for.

Midnight Writer

(21,738 posts)
15. Thank God! Here I have been afraid that Republicans are trying to destroy our democracy.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:35 PM
Sep 2021

I am so relieved that I am just experiencing a lapse in critical thinking skills.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
17. Republicans take advantage of the people who lack critical thinking skills.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:51 PM
Sep 2021

Who'd have thought skeptical down to earth country folk would ever vote for a New York City grifter like Donald Trump?

I think the Republican Party actually wants to destroy public education because they know that broadly educated people with critical thinking skills are more likely to reject them.

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