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Update: After being persuaded to leave hospital by an anti-vaxxer, Joe McCarron died.
2/ Two days after leaving the hospital, Joe was unable to breathe and returned in an ambulance.
His wife denounced the anti-vaxxers.
Joe died on Friday.
Further details via @IrishCentral
irishcentral.com/news/joe-mccar
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COVID patient who left Donegal hospital with anti-vaxxer's help has died
Joe McCarron, 75, died at Letterkenny University Hospital on September 24. A video of McCarron leaving the hospital with an anti-vaxxer went viral earlier this month, though McCarron returned to the h
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/joe-mccarron-covid-donegal
3/ The man encouraging Joe to leave is Antonio Mureddu.
He's uploaded a video with a member of his 'team' saying that they will try to "save as many lives" as they can.
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4/ Antonio Mureddu repeatedly thanks Dolores Cahill helping to get Joe out of the hospital.
Cahill is a celebrity in the anti-mask & anti-vaccine movement.
Here she is appearing on @delbigtree's show, a major anti-vaccine misinformation source.
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https://www.irishcentral.com/news/joe-mccarron-covid-donegal
*snip*
Video of McCarron leaving Letterkenny University Hospital with the help of Antonio Mureddu Gravegliu began to circulate on social media on September 14.
"We are saving Joe's life," Gravegliu says in the video. "Today is a winning day for Ireland." He goes on to thank Dr. Dolores Cahill, a prominent figure in Irelands anti-vaccination movement.
A doctor pleads with McCarron in the video to stay in the hospital: You have the right to decide what you want to do.
Youre barely able to breathe, the doctor says. We want you to stay to help you.
Gravegliu, who was wearing a mask under his chin, tells McCarron, If you stay here, they going to f***ing kill you, Joe.
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'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215889996
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I will help them pack.
Hard to see the down side here.
Nevilledog
(51,064 posts)What about the safety of our healthcare workers because these shitheads will be violent?
How can these patients be making this decision when they're so sick?
What about family members that might push this even if patient might not want to leave?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Removing them involuntarily would be more problematic, but would be prudent if the bed space was needed by those vaccinated and with other conditions
2naSalit
(86,515 posts)tanyev
(42,541 posts)Betcha.
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)Because nothing is ever these assholes fault. Just like the guy who started downplaying the pandemic from jump-street, and came up with "wonder cures" like hydroxy, bleach, special lights shoved down your throat etc. they'll try everything but the right thing.
Then, like you said, they'll blame it all on everyone but themselves. The nerve of these people!
Hopefully that asshole who talked him into leaving the hospital will get the virus and die too. It's all he deserves.
Liberty Belle
(9,533 posts)They contributed to his death by convincing him to try quack cures instead of getting real treatment.
Many have been arrested for fake cancer cures; I googled "cancer quack arrest" and got lots of hits in the US and other countries:
https://www.google.com/search?q=arrest++cancer+quack&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS831US835&ei=cMBQYafoCpfY-wTwoqiAAQ&oq=arrest++cancer+quack&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQoAE6BwgAEEcQsAM6BQgAEJECOgsIABCxAxDJAxCRAjoFCAAQkgM6CggAELEDEIMBEEM6BQgAEIAEOggIABCABBCLAzoHCAAQAxCLAzoLCAAQsQMQgwEQiwM6BQguEIAEOgkIABAWEB4QiwM6CAgAEIAEEMkDOgYIABAWEB46CQgAEMkDEBYQHjoICAAQFhAKEB46BQghEKsCSgUIQBIBMUoECEEYAFCGGljENmCcOGgEcAF4AIABbogB2QuSAQQxMy4zmAEAoAEByAEIuAECwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&ved=0ahUKEwin4P7ipp3zAhUX7J4KHXARChAQ4dUDCA4&uact=5
jeffreyi
(1,938 posts)Elder abuse. That man could not make a decision. Wonder how this stuff plays out in Ireland.
peppertree
(21,621 posts)SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)a friend of every republican in the United States then. Fucking fascists.
peppertree
(21,621 posts)As you know, there's also good reason to believe they colluded with Brazil's Bolsonazi to bring all those Haitians up to the Texas border (they were almost all from Brazil).
The encampment has since been cleared - but they were there long enough for 1,000 photos on the Post and 1,000 screaming rants on Faux News.
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)They're all peas from the same fascist pod, and that pod was planted and fertilized by Vladimir Putin.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)As as Im concerned hes guilty of manslaughter.
ZonkerHarris
(24,218 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,165 posts)Many interesting and bizarre Covid aftermaths on that site.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)It's a death trap! it's a suicide rap!
We gotta get out while we're young!
I wanna die with you on the streets tonight!
This PSA is brought to you by the ghost of Jack Kevorkian
tulipsandroses
(5,122 posts)I thought of the Amtrak crash and I wondered, what would have happened if this had ended up with mass casualties and mass injuries? Would the area hospitals be able to handle it? Are they over run with COVID patients? The selfishness of some of these folks. Its just hard for me these days to feel sympathy
peppertree
(21,621 posts)"CHES! EES WRONG! You son of the beech."
OverBurn
(950 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Why is she denouncing them now?
orleans
(34,045 posts)i saw the man in the orange shirt, sitting down, listening, nodding his head
he looked confused
i'm sorry but when people are sick sometimes they can't make good decisions -- that is why i was my mother's advocate, and my daughter was mine when i was in the icu a number of years ago
i feel sorry for this man who didn't look like he was able to make a clear-headed decision.
(not sure who the fuck that asshole was trying to get him out of there and i'm wondering why the hell he was allowed in the hospital to begin with since he wasn't a relative)
Quakerfriend
(5,450 posts)During the pandemic we have not been allowing ANYONE from outside into the hospital, let alone the ICU. - No family, no friends, NO visitors.
James48
(4,433 posts)We need to be rounding all the anti-vaxxers up and put them in FEMA camps for the safety of the public.
Just lock them up.
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)Ilsa
(61,692 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,863 posts)Weaponized stupidity.
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