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mom2threegirls

(37 posts)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:21 PM Oct 2012

What am I not getting about the Libya situation?

Yes, I know that Obama referred to the terrorist element of the attack the next day, but if I were to get into the repub mindset…

…they think that the administration knew exactly what happened in Benghazi immediately after it happened, and then made a concerted effort to deliberately hide it from the American people. So? What could the American people have done if they knew exactly what happened, when it happened? We were in no imminent danger, so what difference did it make. It is not like this something that lasted for years on end, it was a matter of days. Even if this was the case wouldn’t we expect a rational administration to take their time with any retaliation to make sure that the proper groups/people were targeted - be they organized terrorist cells or protesting civilians?

It seems reasonable to look into what could be done in the future to make our embassies safer, especially in vulnerable regions of the world, but wouldn’t this be a problem unrelated to partisan politics? To me, that alone should be the topic of concern here.

What am I missing?

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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
1. First, it was a consulate not an embassy.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:25 PM
Oct 2012

But in a campaign nothing is safe from partisan politics.

I am surprise that Obama has not been attacked because of the brand of toilet paper used in the White House, which Republicans believe is that soft product Charmin because Obama has been co-opted by the gay agenda instead of something manly like Brawny.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
15. An Ambassador's residence is at the Embassy in Tripoli
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:33 PM
Oct 2012

Chris Stevens was 250 miles away in the counselet in Benghazi. If he thought he was not safe, why was he there?

My take on this is that he was more than just an Ambassador. He was a hero to the Libyans and to the United States.

I believe he had more to do with Khadafi's demise than we know, and that's why he had enemies in Libya and why people demonstrated in favor of him after his killing. Thousands poured out into the streets after the assassination in support of Chris Stevens. Why do you think that was?

Because many Libyans knew the extent to which Cris Stevens went to secure their freedom.

The Obama Administration can't even tell this story without putting more American and Libyan allies at risk.


There's way more here than meets the eye. Way, way more.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. You're making sense so welcome to DU!
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:27 PM
Oct 2012

The Republicans don't give any importance to making sense. They have an election to win, by crook or by crook. And if that doesn't work they'll do their best to win it by crook.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. Heck if I know...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:28 PM
Oct 2012

I don't think you are missing anything. Benghazi, was a terror attack. What actually happened is unclear. Should we try to make sure our people are safer when they are serving in a foreign country? Absolutely. Should we be parsing words and second guessing everything. Absolutely not. Should we be making the sobering facts clear that far fewer Americans are dying in foreign countries these days? Because most of our troops are home now. I dunno sounds kind of cold and calculating.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
4. The GOP knows that Obama has a strong foreign policy record and Romney does not ...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

... therefore they have to find something to 'try' to make Obama look weak or incompetent.

FoxNews has been pushing this Libya issue with the faux outrage everyday all day ever since it happened.

It is disgusting and as President Obama told Romney the night of the debate: "OFFENSIVE".



 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
5. The Republicans want you to forget that "Bin Laden (Was) Determined to Strike the U.S."
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

We aren't suposed to mention Bush, Bin Laden, OR Iraq any more.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
11. Correct, even tho the last para of the story suggests that
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

the first account may have been accurate after all.

KinMd

(966 posts)
9. Remember the Marine Barracks in Beruit
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:01 PM
Oct 2012

Oct 23 1983 241 US servicemen died when a truck bomb crashed through the gate into their barracks. You want to talk about lax security, or a break down of intelligence?
Of course the sainted Ronald Reagan was president so we'll just forget about it

upi402

(16,854 posts)
10. I don't get why the MEDIA repeats Ryans lies about AFTER the 2nd debate
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:04 PM
Oct 2012

It was a national 'call-out' of the false propaganda. Yet the media still repeats it, unchallenged, AFTER the fact.

No wonder good folks buy into the BS.

Welcome!
:wave:

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
12. Here's the thing
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:18 PM
Oct 2012

Casino mogul Adelson pledges $100 million to mittnocchio campaign http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/06/14/499513/billionaire-adelson-pledges-unlimited-campaign-contributions-to-mitt-romney
Some ME protesters report they were paid to protest http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/15/world/meast/egypt-us-embassy-protests/index.html
Some reports indicate the actual killing of the Ambassador and his SEAL team was by well-trained individuals, which brings me to this link. BLACKWATER http://www.thenation.com/article/blackwater-founder-implicated-murder# It has been reported security for the Benghazi consulate was handled by a British firm. Blackwater has a large office in London.
Benghazi was a CIA operation, which the GOP outed in their House hearings (dumbass Issa). Reports indicate Stevens DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. According to reports, this was not an AlQueda attack. Ambassasor Stevens had been called home previously for his own safety, yet we are to believe the Obama administration would ignore his safety this time around. You can check this out on old Rachel Maddow video.
So. who do you think actually killed Ambassador Stevens and his SEAL team?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
13. They want to command the headlines so we won't talk about other things.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:31 PM
Oct 2012

Every moment they are talking about Benghazi is a moment they don't have to talk about taxes or 1 % or binders.

marked50

(1,366 posts)
14. It's really Psycho
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:11 PM
Oct 2012

Ron Chrisitie ( a repub crazy that I thought had disappeared) yesterday or the day before on some talk show said that this Libya thing was worse than Watergate. Man are they living in some alternate universe. This is worse than Watergate? Truly crazy talk...

fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)
16. They don't want to talk about their record of cutting spending for embassy security . . .
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 04:28 PM
Oct 2012

so they try to change the narrative. Typical repuke tactic . . . change the subject! They've got nothing else and the foreign policy debate is tomorrow.

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