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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,711 posts)
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 08:32 PM Sep 2021

Laurence Tribe Wonders Why A Grand Jury Isn't Mulling Sedition Charges Against Steve Bannon

Harvard constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe is wondering why the Department of Justice isn’t convening a grand jury to consider sedition charges against Donald Trump ally and former White House strategist Steve Bannon.

Tribe was referring Thursday to Bannon’s boast the previous day on his “War Room” podcast that “we told” Trump before the Jan. 6 insurrection: “You need to kill this administration in the crib.”

Bannon also had a “war-room-type meeting” with Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s former personal attorney, and others in Washington on the eve of the insurrection, Washington Post journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa reported in their new book, “Peril.” They also reported on Bannon’s comment that night about killing the Biden presidency “in the crib.”

Bannon played a clip on his podcast of an MSNBC interview with Woodward and Costa discussing Bannon’s role, and he didn’t deny it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/law-expert-wonders-why-grand-011305276.html

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Laurence Tribe Wonders Why A Grand Jury Isn't Mulling Sedition Charges Against Steve Bannon (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Sep 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #2
Tribe has the patience of Job. ananda Sep 2021 #3
Grossly misleading-Prof. Tribe did NOT say he's "wondering why a grand jury isn't mulling charges" StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #4
Thank you. Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #5
Yes. This is definitely not on the OP StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #6
this sure happens frequently ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #7
Great Post, Indeed! Beetwasher. Sep 2021 #16
I thought grand jury proceedings were completely private. Sogo Sep 2021 #8
Back to Rummy's quote again, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #9
Exactly StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #12
Me too CanonRay Sep 2021 #10
K & R Duppers Sep 2021 #11
Yup. I'm wondering too. 2naSalit Sep 2021 #13
I still posit that bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #14
I've been wondering why Trump hasn't been arrested for treason. BComplex Sep 2021 #15
Treason has a very specific legal definition StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #17
Trump is good for ratings so it's all good budkin Sep 2021 #18
If they were, would he know? Would we know? NurseJackie Sep 2021 #19
The Slobfraudster and his pathetic Slobfather Blue Owl Sep 2021 #20

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
4. Grossly misleading-Prof. Tribe did NOT say he's "wondering why a grand jury isn't mulling charges"
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 09:22 PM
Sep 2021

He said that "it's increasingly hard to see how DOJ can sit on this kind of revelation without convening a grand jury." He didn't say he thinks DOJ hasn't convened a grand jury but that he can't imagine why they wouldn't.

I went back and read the tweets the article cites because I thought this headline was odd since Prof. Tribe knows that grand jury proceedings are secret and grand juries are often convened and hear evidence without the public knowing about it. So it would be weird for him to claim a grand jury isn't considering charges because he has no way of knowing whether a grand jury is considering charges, what charges they're considering and who the target(s) of those charges may be. He knows better and that's why he didn't say it - but the headline writer probably doesn't understand it and misstated the point he made.

Professor Tribe is speaking in the conditional, just as he had in an earlier tweet when he suggested that it WOULD be hard for DOJ to justify if they're not doing something. That's very different than saying they AREN'T doing anything.

He DEFINITELY did not say he was "wondering why a grand jury isn't mulling charges," despite what the headline claims.

Elessar Zappa

(13,896 posts)
5. Thank you.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 09:28 PM
Sep 2021

Headlines are often misleading and click-bait. I don’t blame the OP but the writer of the article.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
6. Yes. This is definitely not on the OP
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 09:30 PM
Sep 2021

The headline writer (who may not have written the article) is responsible. And I can see how a laypeople who aren't familiar with the grand jury system would have no reason to know that the headline mischaracterized what Prof. Tribe said.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
8. I thought grand jury proceedings were completely private.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 09:54 PM
Sep 2021

How would we know if one had been convened for this?

gab13by13

(21,237 posts)
9. Back to Rummy's quote again,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 10:05 PM
Sep 2021

why not just say part 3, we don't know what we don't know?

We had an attempted coup and the discourse here is to not get alarmed, to just wait, because we don't know what DOJ is or isn't doing.

The biggest threat to our democracy is from people who say not to worry, be happy. 9 months ago we had an attempted coup and all we have so far are judges giving bit players slaps on the wrists.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
12. Exactly
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 10:24 PM
Sep 2021

If you read the article and Tribe's tweets, you'll see that he never claimed to know whether a grand jury is taking evidence. The headline is misleading.

bucolic_frolic

(43,028 posts)
14. I still posit that
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 10:32 PM
Sep 2021

you don't want to make these guys into lightning rods and martyrs, you don't want to give them the chance to be acquitted, and these guys know everything about everyone so you tread lightly. Timely indictments for 2024 are good enough, and you strike when the appeal of their movement has declined so as not to divide the country more sharply.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
15. I've been wondering why Trump hasn't been arrested for treason.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 01:48 PM
Sep 2021

If there has EVER been someone who has openly and brazenly committed treason, it's him.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
17. Treason has a very specific legal definition
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 01:50 PM
Sep 2021

and most scholars believe that Trump's actions don't fit within it. It would be difficult, if not impossible to get a conviction on a treason charge.

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