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LastLiberal in PalmSprings

(12,564 posts)
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 10:49 PM Sep 2021

An NYU professor says fewer men going to college will lead to a 'mating crisis'

Insider:

New York University professor Scott Galloway told CNN on Saturday. ... "College is becoming the domain of women and not men," he said. The issue is being driven by the rising cost of college without much change to the quality of going to college. Elite universities, he said, are focused on giving a luxury experience and not expanding enrollment.

Additionally, he said, college-aged men have more options beyond college at that age than women. "You can walk onto a construction site in Florida, you can turn on an app, cop, firemen, trade job which at the age of 18 if you can make $100 to $200 a day that feels like real cabbage."

But Galloway warned that beyond the classroom, the gap is causing an "existential threat to society," and that we are creating a "dangerous cohort." "We have mating inequality in the country," he said, adding that women with college degrees don't want to partner with men who don't hold a degree.

"The most dangerous person in the world is a broke and lone male, and we are producing too many of them," he said. (emphasis added)

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So, get out there, make a lot of money and start f*cking your asses off, guys -- America needs you!

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An NYU professor says fewer men going to college will lead to a 'mating crisis' (Original Post) LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2021 OP
Isn't it interesting when sexism is so blatant? littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #1
I'm thinking the scene from Strangelove. carpetbagger Sep 2021 #5
If men don't want to get smarter then expect the incel population to rise dramatically ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #2
If those incel imbiciles I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2021 #12
$100/day is $12.50/hr for an 8 hour shift - less than many fast food or Starbucks locations. LonePirate Sep 2021 #3
Nor ethics nor the humanities, perhaps. Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #16
China would be in even worse shape EYESORE 9001 Sep 2021 #4
Lots of talk, but only a small actual effect. Nt. carpetbagger Sep 2021 #8
What a load of crap .. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #6
Same here. shrike3 Sep 2021 #29
Who says 4 year grads only marry 4 year grads, dis guy knows nothing about sex, breeders gonna breed Shanti Shanti Shanti Sep 2021 #7
This is why we have wars. roamer65 Sep 2021 #9
Sex Robots Get More Intimate with Humans, Thanks to AI Klaralven Sep 2021 #10
"We" aren't producing them. "They" are choosing this route. Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #11
Thank you! smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #14
Yeah who wants to get a four year degree and have 200K in loans jimfields33 Sep 2021 #15
It depends, of course.... Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #19
I actually agree. Obviously a good college degree is overall priceless. jimfields33 Sep 2021 #20
Perhaps. Many will not. But many will. Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #22
Well, gee whiz! Guess that makes me out of the running for marriage forever! no_hypocrisy Sep 2021 #13
He's making quite the argument for single-payer college tuition. ck4829 Sep 2021 #17
Something similar was potentially a big problem for China. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #18
I did. I married a guy without a BA shrike3 Sep 2021 #21
It's not just about money.... Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #24
Well, my reply to that is that is, I've known plenty of "educated" guys who turned off their brains shrike3 Sep 2021 #26
Of course. Like I said, it is not an absolute. Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #27
College-educated MEN historically have had no problem pairing up with non-college educated women. shrike3 Sep 2021 #28
Mr Lake is/was the hardest working man I knew. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #30
lololololol obamanut2012 Sep 2021 #23
Not enough stupid women to go around for the amount of stupid men out there? Iggo Sep 2021 #25

littlemissmartypants

(22,549 posts)
1. Isn't it interesting when sexism is so blatant?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 10:55 PM
Sep 2021

Galloway making mating choices for educated women since 2021, should be his epitaph.

carpetbagger

(4,390 posts)
5. I'm thinking the scene from Strangelove.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:03 PM
Sep 2021

Only in this case, each professor will will have to mate with 5 undergrads. If this guy spews like he did sober, I guarantee you he's saying this when he's lit.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
12. If those incel imbiciles
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:19 PM
Sep 2021

Start raping women in masse,I think there should be a lasting and dramatic penalty.

Cut it off balls and all.
Make them look like a ken doll.

That would put an end to the rape.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
3. $100/day is $12.50/hr for an 8 hour shift - less than many fast food or Starbucks locations.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 10:58 PM
Sep 2021

Evidently math and finance are not taught in schools nowadays.

Backseat Driver

(4,380 posts)
16. Nor ethics nor the humanities, perhaps.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 03:01 AM
Sep 2021

We all paid to bail out those banks, though, with full reliance on a system built on debt and promises with officers now wanting stablization with cybercoin? Or manipulated via war? yet never acknowledging what may slip between the sheets, the Pillow talk, over the border, within the veil of early cognition of dementia and psychopathy, and locked and loaded against "freedumbs" gained and lost? Overrun by AI programming that never sleeps to parse our words to sell us EVERYTHING, and I do mean everything! As per another post this evening, someone even pays for someone to tell us where we might find "noise relief on planet Earth," (I'm old enough to have heard that national scary silence a couple times) but I ask where can we find the other part of "peace and quiet" but that's another story, and no one has the same story...We're born, we cope, we die is close - some people are lucky to have had and find "love" of many definitions; some aren't so lucky to find the definition they expect, but we remain hopeful and encouraged they, in their time, will. It's challenging, stressful, and sometimes we fly blind and even mess up in our response, but I still believe in it and reject those where I cannot find, by any definition, its existence.

EYESORE 9001

(25,908 posts)
4. China would be in even worse shape
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 10:59 PM
Sep 2021

A generation of children was conceived during one-child guidelines, and many parents wanted that one child to be male. A large deficit of females in their age group should lead to lots of angry young men in China, but I haven’t heard anything about this being the case.

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
6. What a load of crap ..
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:07 PM
Sep 2021

I have a degree Mr Lake doesn’t.

Men may be threatened by women who make more money but I don’t think educated women have the problem.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
10. Sex Robots Get More Intimate with Humans, Thanks to AI
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:14 PM
Sep 2021
You could call it “sexual competition.” Robotic dolls designed for intimate companionship are hitting the market.

Some of the newest dolls or “sex robots” respond to touch. They talk. Their artificial emotional intimacy is powered by artificial intelligence.

Simon Dubé, who researches human sexuality, is hosting a virtual academic conference this week titled “Love and Sex with Robots," attended by around 130 academics and industry leaders. He says new possibilities for human-robot relationships are emerging.

It’s the wild west, as companies experiment and market new types of “experiences.”

Matt McMullen, the founder of AI and robotics startup, Realbotix, says customers don’t necessarily want robots that are just like humans.

“We’ve done many, many dolls that are gender fluid or may have one or both genders," McMullen says. "I think people like to kind of experiment where they may come up with something that may not or could not exist in reality.”


https://www.newsy.com/stories/sex-robots-get-more-intimate-with-humans-thanks-to-ai/

Happy Hoosier

(7,215 posts)
11. "We" aren't producing them. "They" are choosing this route.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:18 PM
Sep 2021

We have a large group of people who routinely rubbish expertise and education. And men are more likely than women to buy in to that bullshit.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Thank you!
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:25 PM
Sep 2021

This is such a ridiculous premise. Nobody but men themselves are responsible for this.

What a joke!

jimfields33

(15,688 posts)
15. Yeah who wants to get a four year degree and have 200K in loans
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 12:52 AM
Sep 2021

Working at Starbucks making 15 bucks an hour. When you can go to tech school and be a plumber of electrician and be better off for it.

Happy Hoosier

(7,215 posts)
19. It depends, of course....
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:41 AM
Sep 2021

I won't rubbish a good trade. But "better off" is a matter of perspective.

The degree matters, of course. I got an engineering degree. That means a really well-paying job and great long-term career prospects.

And, of course, what kind of job you want matters too. You may be satisfied with a work-a-day trade job. Many people are. Nothing wrong with that. It would bore me to tears. I very much enjoy the intellectual challenge of my job. I've actually been an important member of a team that accomplished some "firsts" in my field. It would be difficult for me to give that up.

And there is the enrichment factor. Attending a college or university tends to expose people to new ideas, and challenge their preconceived notions. And most importantly, a good college/university will teach critical thinking skills. There is a reason that more-educated people tend towards being more progressive.

And, of course, the actual stats are that a college graduate will make more money over their career, on average. Even enough to cover the average students loans and then some, though we need to make college (and all post secondary education) affordable.

Again... I'm not rubbishing skilled trades. We need them, and they are great options for folks who do not want, or cannot attend college. But if we are going to encourage people to avoid advanced education, we will fail in the competition of a knowledge-based economy.

jimfields33

(15,688 posts)
20. I actually agree. Obviously a good college degree is overall priceless.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:01 AM
Sep 2021

I’m just thinking that some of these guys will not be living in their parents basement playing video games. I think that’s the underlying thought of the author.

Happy Hoosier

(7,215 posts)
22. Perhaps. Many will not. But many will.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:13 AM
Sep 2021

Many will learn a skilled trade of some sort... either right out of High School, or later.

But there is a reason there is a actually a skilled-trade shortage, and it's not because there aren't enough workers.

For some reason, a lot of people STILL think they can get a middle-class blue collar job right out of school. Those days are basically over. And then these folks complain there are not good jobs or that immigrants are stealing all the good jobs.

One thing the author mentions that's a "problem" amuses me to no end... the idea that he's complaining that mating options are limited because college educated women will not want to partner with non-college educated men.

Of course, there is an implicit association of a college degree with social class in this country.... at least a college degree from a traditional 4-year university. So the concept of social class enters the equation. But there is also just the matter of companionship. Women want a partner that can meet them in conversation about ideas, and to apply critical thinking skills. That's not to say no trade-school graduate does that (of course some do), but combine these factors and yeah, on average, college-educated women are going to prefer college-educated men.

Just observationally, I think every one of my close friends is college educated. It's not that I filter them, but they tend to be people with which I share interests and can have meaningful discussion.

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
13. Well, gee whiz! Guess that makes me out of the running for marriage forever!
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:19 PM
Sep 2021

I have nine years of college which breaks down into a AB in Liberal Arts, an MA in Education, and J.D.

I'll never find a man worthy of me!

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
18. Something similar was potentially a big problem for China.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:34 AM
Sep 2021

With the one child policy, many female children were killed or put into orphanages because couples wanted male children.

Oddly, China did not foresee the bride shortage problem that would occur decades later.

One of Beijing's biggest fears is the the outright rebellion of the Chinese people. With a population of 1.3 billion, Beijng knows it cannot control mass rebellion. The Chinese were starving two decades ago, so Being made food plentiful and cheap. That took care of that problem.

But then the bride shortage was a problem. Bejing feared a huge population of restless males with no wives, no children, roaming around causing problems.

The shortage was most acute in the rural area of China, the farmers were the hardest hit. Chinese women preferred to live in cities and marry urban males. So the Chinese had to solve this problem and they did so by importing brides from Thailand and Cambodia to marry the Chinese farmers.

It was win-win as the Thai and Cambodian women coming to China had a higher standard of living when moving to China. The Chinese farmers had wives and family. And Beijing reduced the rebellion risk factor.

shrike3

(3,485 posts)
21. I did. I married a guy without a BA
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:10 AM
Sep 2021

Thanks to him I have a union pension and union insurance for life. Good tradeoff.

We live in an area where there are plenty of guys like him. I have friends who refuse to date anyone without a college degree. I've told them that many of these tradesmen make more than guys with degrees and have boats, summer homes. They won't listen.

Happy Hoosier

(7,215 posts)
24. It's not just about money....
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 11:36 AM
Sep 2021

I think there is a certain class consciousness. And for many people, it's a natural tendency to want to engage intimately with people of similar experiences and backgrounds.

I assume you and your husband connect well, so this is not in any way directed at you, or others who make those sorts of connections. But I DO understand why a college-educated women might prefer college-educated men.

shrike3

(3,485 posts)
26. Well, my reply to that is that is, I've known plenty of "educated" guys who turned off their brains
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 09:44 AM
Sep 2021

once they graduated from college. My husband is a lifelong learner, interested in everything. He likes theatre. The college educated guys I know do not. He reads. The college grads are "too busy." What some might call class consciousness, I might call snobbery. But that's me.

And meanwhile, many of my single friends are having to deal with uncertain futures, while I am not, given the benefits that my marriage has brought me.

It's funny, some of my friends even looked down on my husband when they first met him. Because he worked with his hands. Now that they've gotten to know him, none of them do.

Happy Hoosier

(7,215 posts)
27. Of course. Like I said, it is not an absolute.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:23 PM
Sep 2021

I do know non-college folks who are curious smart, and excellent critical thinkers.

I Am saying that if you look into the sociology of this, you will see that as a TREND, college-educated people tend to prefer other college educated people as partners. That is not to denigrate any particular person.

I took pains to indicate to you I do not mean this as a personal swipe at you and your husband, and I apologize that my efforts were inadequate. I want to assure you I do not look down on your husband. Why would I? As with you, I know some non-college folks who are great, and many MANY college folks who are trash humans.

I speaking about this strictly as a sociological issue. This isn't about worth or quality as a person in my eyes.

shrike3

(3,485 posts)
28. College-educated MEN historically have had no problem pairing up with non-college educated women.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 09:38 PM
Sep 2021


I don't think I'm out of line saying this. Now, perhaps the newer generations feel differently. BUT many men in earlier generations did not look at a woman as an intellectual companion. Intellectual capacity was not a requirement for marriage. It's even been written about in articles like the OP. I remember a quote from one article: "I get all the intellectual stimulation I need from my friends and the guys at work. When I'm home, I want to relax." He definitely seemed to be speaking for a lot of men.(These are probably the same guys who say, 'my wife doesn't understand me,' but that's another matter.)

I can remember a DUer saying, "My wife's I.Q. is a few points lower than mine. But it's the emotional quotient that interests me."

Educated women have competed not only with each other, but with non-college grads for years. So, in some ways, this is nothing new.

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
30. Mr Lake is/was the hardest working man I knew.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 AM
Sep 2021

That made him hugely successful in is “blue collar” profession. Why? Because he was dependable, honest, effective.

Those are keys to success.

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
25. Not enough stupid women to go around for the amount of stupid men out there?
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 11:56 AM
Sep 2021

I can’t fix that.

“So you’re voluntarily uneducated, but you’re involuntarily celibate. Do I have that right, son?”

Jeez.

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