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NewHendoLib

(60,006 posts)
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 01:58 PM Sep 2021

Poll about the crazy time we live in - your views?


37 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Things have always been this crazy, it's just that the media is making money showing it
2 (5%)
Things have always been this crazy, it is just that social networking is bringing it to wider visibility
2 (5%)
We are at a point that is crazier (and more dangerous) than most, but we've been here at other points
2 (5%)
We are at a real tipping point, and this is a uniquely insane/dangerous time
20 (54%)
Our species lives in a huge cycle, and we've managed to find ourselves in one of the crazy periods but we will get through it
1 (3%)
None of the above matter because climate change will have the last laugh on us
4 (11%)
all of the above
6 (16%)
other - please explain
0 (0%)
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Poll about the crazy time we live in - your views? (Original Post) NewHendoLib Sep 2021 OP
I chose the third answer - but really do think that climate change will override it all before long NewHendoLib Sep 2021 #1
Social networking and RWmedia are vastly exacerbating the cray and RW pols are fine being blatantly JudyM Sep 2021 #2
yup NewHendoLib Sep 2021 #3
I don't consider the current time as "crazy", so no real choices. brooklynite Sep 2021 #4
Yeah from a historical perspective even in our lifetime it isn't that crazy. cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 #5
I completely disagree with you wackadoo wabbit Sep 2021 #11
A third of the populace isn't trying to overthrow the government. Kaleva Sep 2021 #14
The 70s Sucked Pretty Bad modrepub Sep 2021 #18
As I've said here a couple of times recently, it feels like a Kali Yuga as great cycles intersect... Hekate Sep 2021 #6
I share your view about what is to come. it is weird.... NewHendoLib Sep 2021 #7
Yes, it very much feels like that /nt wackadoo wabbit Sep 2021 #12
How we deal with global warming will determine our future. hunter Sep 2021 #8
kicking. interesting responses. NewHendoLib Sep 2021 #9
160 years ago we were picking up rifles & charging at each other Bucky Sep 2021 #10
Ah, but 160 years ago our planet wasn't mere decades (or possibly even just years) wackadoo wabbit Sep 2021 #13
As I've said before, climate change is going to fuck us all up. So enjoy today while you can. Kaleva Sep 2021 #15
We've had periods this dangerous in the past mvd Sep 2021 #16
Native Americans might have thought things were bad before. And blacks. Kaleva Sep 2021 #17
You're right - things have been bad that way before mvd Sep 2021 #19
Of course, each generation or era has its disasters. However I'd submit that climate refugees ... Hekate Sep 2021 #20

JudyM

(29,185 posts)
2. Social networking and RWmedia are vastly exacerbating the cray and RW pols are fine being blatantly
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 02:41 PM
Sep 2021

vile and destructive.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
5. Yeah from a historical perspective even in our lifetime it isn't that crazy.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 03:35 PM
Sep 2021

I would say the early seventies, for example, were certainly a wilder time.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,164 posts)
11. I completely disagree with you
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:57 PM
Sep 2021

I lived through the '70s, and now is much, much worse than then.

At least then, as bad as things were, we didn't have half of our representatives and a third of the populace denying reality and trying to overthrow the government.

More importantly, though, we also have many more problems going on right now than just the political (although I feel as if I'm downplaying the seriousness of our political issues by writing that).

For example, the fatal flaws in capitalism are finally overtly showing themselves. It'll be interesting to see where that goes.

But the major issue today is climate change. Climate change is an existential threat that is just too overwhelming for most people to even acknowledge. Absolutely nothing — neither political, nor social, nor economic — will matter when the planet becomes mostly uninhabitable.

Climate change was, as is obvious, the option I voted for in the poll.

Kaleva

(36,240 posts)
14. A third of the populace isn't trying to overthrow the government.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:06 PM
Sep 2021

Despite there being millions of Trump voters living within an easy drive of DC, only about 800 Magahats from around the country attacked the Capitol on the 6th of Jan.. In Michigan that day, there were only a few hundred Trump supporters protesting at the state capital.

modrepub

(3,488 posts)
18. The 70s Sucked Pretty Bad
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:25 PM
Sep 2021

From a lot of standpoints. What Nixon did was on par with TFG though there were enough folks in Congress who could tell when enough was enough.

I don't mean to trivialize Climate Change but the human race has survived at least one major ice-age cycle with radical climate shifts. A little over 20k years ago Chicago was covered by ice several hundred to thousands of feet thick. Humans were much less equipped to handle the sudden changes in climate that inevitably happened then than we are today.

We do have the future in our hands but I remain hopeful that smart folks, if given the chance, will help us get through this crisis (and it will eventually be a crisis). Maybe I'm over optimistic but I don't believe our entire race is going to be wiped out. That type of thinking will only lead to folks give up and doing nothing.

Having survive the nuclear arms race, DDT, Chlorofluorocarbons, the Cold War, acid rain, runaway inflation, stagflation, AIDS, Y2K, the 2000 election, 3 Republican administrations, TFG and other assorted disasters since the 70s I'm here to say to folks just starting out, yes there will be a tomorrow (so start planning on it).

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
6. As I've said here a couple of times recently, it feels like a Kali Yuga as great cycles intersect...
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 03:43 PM
Sep 2021

Not just a massive historical cycle as autocracies are ascendant, not just climate catastrophe, not just massive overpopulation, not just an evolving pandemic virus…

Not terribly optimistic these days, not that anybody really wants to hear it.

NewHendoLib

(60,006 posts)
7. I share your view about what is to come. it is weird....
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 03:53 PM
Sep 2021

personally, we love our life - my wife of 40 years, our dogs and cats, our hobbies - it is when I peek my head out of our bubble that the insanity is just so clear. It can be something as simple as a drive down the road seeing the Cawthorn or TFG signs, or the lack of masks in local stores.

Not at all optimistic here.

hunter

(38,301 posts)
8. How we deal with global warming will determine our future.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 03:54 PM
Sep 2021

If we ignore the problem then Mother Nature will deal with our 21st century world civilization in her usual harsh ways.

Billions of us will suffer and die.

And it won't all be the impoverished who suffer. There's going to be some very ugly scenes in the exclusionary utopias of the wealthy and the powerful.

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
10. 160 years ago we were picking up rifles & charging at each other
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:33 PM
Sep 2021

This period in history is bad, but it's definitely been worse

wackadoo wabbit

(1,164 posts)
13. Ah, but 160 years ago our planet wasn't mere decades (or possibly even just years)
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:03 PM
Sep 2021

away from becoming uninhabitable.

Call me wacky, but I consider an uninhabitable planet as worse.

mvd

(65,156 posts)
16. We've had periods this dangerous in the past
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:11 PM
Sep 2021

I am just not sure our democracy has ever been under attack like it is now. These are unique times. The Republican Party is now like a Fascist party.

Kaleva

(36,240 posts)
17. Native Americans might have thought things were bad before. And blacks.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:15 PM
Sep 2021

Slaves and Native Americans of yesteryear can be forgiven for not knowing how bad things would be for whites in 2021.

mvd

(65,156 posts)
19. You're right - things have been bad that way before
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:55 PM
Sep 2021

Right now though we’ve never had such a climate change crisis or so many Repukes fascists..

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
20. Of course, each generation or era has its disasters. However I'd submit that climate refugees ...
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:47 PM
Sep 2021

…are largely POC of many different nations. Today. Their crops are failing badly. Those drowned black and brown toddlers we’ve seen on the shores of the Mediterranean and the shores of the Rio Grande would not be there if their parents could work their farms back home.



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