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NY Gov Kathy Hochul just earned my respect...... (Original Post) Takket Sep 2021 OP
DO IT Skittles Sep 2021 #1
they are literally killing us............ enough. vaccinte, or lose your job. Takket Sep 2021 #3
Good for her. roamer65 Sep 2021 #2
Excellent. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #4
Are there enough trained Nat'l Guard members to replace to un vaccinated health professionals... Enter stage left Sep 2021 #5
The problem is: medically trained National Guard troops marybourg Sep 2021 #6
I appreciate your response, but it still sends the message to the holdouts... Enter stage left Sep 2021 #15
True. But this should help move more people to where they are most needed. n/t pnwmom Sep 2021 #26
For the past 2 years, all of these people were called Heroes. Calista241 Sep 2021 #7
...and how many have the unvaccinated health care "professionals" murdered? Lucky Luciano Sep 2021 #10
And yet ... Demobrat Sep 2021 #14
The vaccinated are still s/heroes. The unvaccinated are now endangering lives. niyad Sep 2021 #17
Me neither. Those who refused to wear masks in public, and later Hortensis Sep 2021 #45
My Trump-humper brother in law works at an older care home LiberalLovinLug Sep 2021 #48
No one but their own intransigence is denying them that label. LanternWaste Sep 2021 #21
The pandemic is a fluid, dynamic situation Random Boomer Sep 2021 #29
+1000. wnylib Sep 2021 #33
And some of them carried the virus wnylib Sep 2021 #32
Unvaccinated healthcare workers are spreading the virus. They are Politicub Sep 2021 #35
You could make that case about anyone doing anything, vaccinated or not. Calista241 Sep 2021 #36
No. Unvaccinated healthcare workers work in settings around sick people. Politicub Sep 2021 #37
Unvaccinated Health Care Workers DENVERPOPS Sep 2021 #42
They have saved lives, unless their unvaccinated status endagered others and passed on the virus ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #40
This is unfortunately what has to be done. onecaliberal Sep 2021 #8
I wish she would move and primary Cinema! nt joetheman Sep 2021 #9
Me too. MLAA Sep 2021 #23
Wrong state. Sinema is Arizona's Senator. wnylib Sep 2021 #34
He did say, "I wish she would move." DFW Sep 2021 #46
The leates numbers I've seen indicated that would cover about 72,000 people. That's a lot of people PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #11
Excellent! Taking out the trash! Lucky Luciano Sep 2021 #12
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #13
Excellent niyad Sep 2021 #16
Why Nurses Have Been Hit the Hardest During the Pandemic The Daily Show IronLionZion Sep 2021 #18
Thank you, Governor Hochul. Anyone who is an anti-vaxxer. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2021 #19
She's got woman "balls" Tree Lady Sep 2021 #20
How about "ovaries" instead of balls? Couragea and the willingness to do the niyad Sep 2021 #50
Vax-compromised Mopar151 Sep 2021 #22
WOW. That is a truly BOSS move. /nt spudspud Sep 2021 #24
Bravo ! K&R Duppers Sep 2021 #25
Brava! niyad Sep 2021 #52
Good. elleng Sep 2021 #27
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Sep 2021 #28
Funny how people don't feel the same should apply to the Teacher's Union. brooklynite Sep 2021 #30
Of course it should. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #43
Good wryter2000 Sep 2021 #31
A regional chain of nursing homes near me wnylib Sep 2021 #38
Unemployment? regrestic Sep 2021 #39
if they show up and get vaxxed today I'm all for them getting to keep the job ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #41
Good for her. She cares about the people in New York appleannie1 Sep 2021 #44
Also Nurses Ready to Strike Oct 1 at Catholic Hospital In Buffalo regrestic Sep 2021 #47
If you're in the HEALTHcare field and you are anti-vaccine Moebym Sep 2021 #49
Making it public... lame54 Sep 2021 #51
They get no unemployment and have flushed their career Historic NY Sep 2021 #53

Enter stage left

(3,396 posts)
5. Are there enough trained Nat'l Guard members to replace to un vaccinated health professionals...
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:26 PM
Sep 2021

If there aren't, then some un vaccinated people in the ICU might die of covid, and free up some beds for other emergency's.

Looks like a "win, win" choice to me.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
6. The problem is: medically trained National Guard troops
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:31 PM
Sep 2021

are probably working medical jobs already, elsewhere in N.Y,

Enter stage left

(3,396 posts)
15. I appreciate your response, but it still sends the message to the holdouts...
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:07 PM
Sep 2021

Get vaxxed, or lose your jobs.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
7. For the past 2 years, all of these people were called Heroes.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:35 PM
Sep 2021

They literally walked past signs that said "Heros Work Here" on a daily basis.

While I think they should be vaccinated; they have been putting their lives on the line for ours, in perhaps the most difficult working conditions possible.

They've certainly contributed more than I have, since all I did was social distance, wear a mask, and get a jab. They have literally saved lives.

Demobrat

(8,976 posts)
14. And yet ...
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:06 PM
Sep 2021

if they would rather lose their jobs than get a vaccination, what kind of advice are they giving people?

niyad

(113,301 posts)
17. The vaccinated are still s/heroes. The unvaccinated are now endangering lives.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:18 PM
Sep 2021

I heard that same line from a friend's sister-in-law, who is a nurse at the biggest health care system in their county. She is a trumphumper, a qanon believer, and, unsurprisingly, an anti-mask, anti-vax loon. If she walks out, she will lose her job, the health care for both she and her husband (both with very expensive health issues), and her husband's family farm. And they are not quite retirement age. It will be interesting. I would not want her anywhere near me.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. Me neither. Those who refused to wear masks in public, and later
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 02:37 PM
Sep 2021

be vaccinated when it became available, have always been endangering lives. And unlike some others who manage to do morbidly stupid well enough, they can't fool anyone that they haven't always known it.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
48. My Trump-humper brother in law works at an older care home
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 04:49 PM
Sep 2021

But he got his shots because it was mandated by his employer. Even though he says things like. "they put their poison in me". And continually scoffs at the severity of the pandemic.

Hopefully she will get the "poison" put in her and keep her job too. We need as many nurses as we can get.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. No one but their own intransigence is denying them that label.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:35 PM
Sep 2021

And in regards to your last assertion, I don't think the nurse who saved three lives is any more, nor any less, 'heroic' than the nurse who saved 33 lives.

Random Boomer

(4,168 posts)
29. The pandemic is a fluid, dynamic situation
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 09:40 AM
Sep 2021

There is no one, static response. Vaccines are the latest, possibly the most critical, weapon against the virus. Given the virulence and highly contagious nature of Delta and the rising mortality numbers that results, it's no longer enough to just suit up in PPE. Medical workers need to protect themselves and their patients, as well as the community, by getting vaccinated.

Any HCWs who refuse vaccination are failing at their job, not to mention putting their lives and the lives of other at risk. They need to find another line of work.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
32. And some of them carried the virus
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:10 PM
Sep 2021

home to family, or vice versa, into work to their patients. That was hard to avoid before vaccines, although they did their best through use of PPE, hand-washing, and sanitization of equipment and environment.

But now there is no excuse for not being vaccinated. Now, if not vaccinated, they create an unnecessary risk to patients, family, and community.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
35. Unvaccinated healthcare workers are spreading the virus. They are
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:16 PM
Sep 2021

making the choice to be virus vectors. There was a study about this I read about yesterday.

Maybe the unvaxxed are not cut out for medical work. I wasn’t able to do my job a few years ago because of circumstances out of my control. I have no sympathy for these healthcare workers because they do have a choice, but their ideology trumps the idea of doing no harm.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
37. No. Unvaccinated healthcare workers work in settings around sick people.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:21 PM
Sep 2021

So, you’re wrong. Their role is unlike others.

What is your point, exactly? That there should be people that are special enough to not get the vaccine because they don’t give a damn?

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
42. Unvaccinated Health Care Workers
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:39 PM
Sep 2021

are potentially super spreaders............

Years ago I learned of a nurse in a newborn center, go from baby to baby without washing her hands. Ten newborns total.
Within 24 hours all ten had contracted a serious infection of some sort from the nurse and it sent the newborn infant center into an all out scramble to try and save them.

ZonkerHarris

(24,223 posts)
40. They have saved lives, unless their unvaccinated status endagered others and passed on the virus
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:37 PM
Sep 2021

and there is no way to track the damage they may have done

DFW

(54,372 posts)
46. He did say, "I wish she would move."
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 02:45 PM
Sep 2021

I would give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume he didn't mean to Pago Pago.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
11. The leates numbers I've seen indicated that would cover about 72,000 people. That's a lot of people
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:50 PM
Sep 2021

to fire in an already stressed health care system.

DinahMoeHum

(21,786 posts)
19. Thank you, Governor Hochul. Anyone who is an anti-vaxxer. . .
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:25 PM
Sep 2021

. . . has no business being in the healthcare profession.

Period. End of discussion.

Tree Lady

(11,458 posts)
20. She's got woman "balls"
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:28 PM
Sep 2021

This makes me happy, there are more of us vaccinated than not and its about time the unvaccinated pay for their stupidity.

There is the rare exception of folks who really can't get shot but that is 1% of those that don't.

niyad

(113,301 posts)
50. How about "ovaries" instead of balls? Couragea and the willingness to do the
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 05:23 PM
Sep 2021

correct thing is not gender related. That male is the default setting is desand annoying. annoying.

wryter2000

(46,040 posts)
31. Good
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:26 AM
Sep 2021

Those assholes need to try to live without their paychecks for a while. If they do qualify for unemployment (do they?), let them try living on that.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
38. A regional chain of nursing homes near me
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:23 PM
Sep 2021

has lost around 10% of its employees who refused the vax, according to the director of the chain, who supports the mandate. This director said that she anticipated this and has been planning on how to deal with it. No details, though, on what she is doing.

Meantime, 2 NY Republican state senators have written a bill to remove the requirement for pre-school children, ages 2 to 4, to wear masks. Think I will e-mail them to ask what they have against toddlers that they are willing to put them at risk.

regrestic

(26 posts)
39. Unemployment?
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:28 PM
Sep 2021

Generally speaking if you refuse the vaccine mandate, you are not qualified for unemployment, barring a few exceptions.. You have to lose your job through no fault of your own..but there are certain "unique" situations I have read..

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-york-health-care-workers-who-are-fired-for-refusing-to-be-vaccinated-wont-be-eligible-for-unemployment-benefits-in-most-cases-11632780792

So today in Buffalo, some hospitals employees showed up for vaccines, but kind of late since the deadline was the 27th..According to the mandate they are still out of employment. I hope the hospitals stick to it and not cave..The religious exemption has been put on pause by the courts, a pending decision by Oct 12..

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
53. They get no unemployment and have flushed their career
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 05:36 PM
Sep 2021

no facility will hire rogue workers, even bed pan handlers. Imagine getting interviewed even for private employment.

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