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triron

(21,988 posts)
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:33 PM Sep 2021

What now Kyrsten since the NYTimes exposed your treachery?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/us/politics/sinema-fund-raiser-social-climate-bill.html

'Under Ms. Sinema’s political logo, the influential National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors and the grocers’ PAC, along with lobbyists for roofers and electrical contractors and a small business group called the S-Corp political action committee, have invited association members to an undisclosed location on Tuesday afternoon for 45 minutes to write checks for between $1,000 and $5,800, payable to Sinema for Arizona.

Full vaccinations for the coronavirus will be required, according to the invitation.

The planned event comes during a make-or-break week for President Biden’s agenda, when House Democrats are trying to pass a trillion-dollar infrastructure bill that Ms. Sinema helped negotiate, and trying to nail down the details of a social policy and climate bill that could spend as much as $3.5 trillion over the next decade.

Ms. Sinema has said she cannot support a bill that large, and has privately told Senate Democratic colleagues that she is averse to the corporate and individual tax rate increases that both the House and Senate tax-writing committees had planned to use to help pay for the measure.'


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What now Kyrsten since the NYTimes exposed your treachery? (Original Post) triron Sep 2021 OP
This is why GOP always take back House and/or Senate leftstreet Sep 2021 #1
It is as if she was the only girl invited to the frat party .... Under The Radar Sep 2021 #2
Wow. Lisa0825 Sep 2021 #9
right? CrackityJones75 Sep 2021 #13
As always, progressives work for the people, FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #3
More like using her office to enrich herself JohnSJ Sep 2021 #6
Sinema presented herself as a non "conservadem", but she's more of one than (almost) anyone else JHB Sep 2021 #15
Thank you for the attention !?! dweller Sep 2021 #4
Right on. I voted for her and am so disgusted. MLAA Sep 2021 #7
I think your vote was the right one. padah513 Sep 2021 #19
True, there really no choice. I sure hope we get a strong candidate MLAA Sep 2021 #21
I can't tell you how many times I refreshed to see the voting dumps.... BradAllison Sep 2021 #30
What now? More. More. More. czarjak Sep 2021 #5
She's a GOP plant if I ever saw one. nt Progressive Jones Sep 2021 #8
Does she have a family? Corgigal Sep 2021 #10
Why Isn't The Media WHITT Sep 2021 #11
Forty years ago, I saw a really bad movie MurrayDelph Sep 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Sep 2021 #14
It sometimes takes HUMILITY to be a team player. That's the problem with Sinema. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2021 #16
She's not even TRYING to hide it. Clearly the blowback isn't hard enough. OnDoutside Sep 2021 #17
I think Sinema is more likely to switch Parties than Joe Manchin. kentuck Sep 2021 #18
That's exactly what I think she want to do. padah513 Sep 2021 #20
She has zero chance with the Rethug Party, she is openly bi-sexual, pro choice, atheist/agnostic Celerity Sep 2021 #25
That might have worked out well for her five years ago Tom Rinaldo Sep 2021 #22
She could do a Lieberman, calling himself an "independent Democrat" Hortensis Sep 2021 #24
Yes, that is a distinct possibility Tom Rinaldo Sep 2021 #27
I hope you're right about that last. Hortensis Sep 2021 #28
It's theoretically possible she could win running as an Independent in Arizona Tom Rinaldo Sep 2021 #29
:) Sensible and knowledgeable evaluation. I was thinking more Hortensis Sep 2021 #32
She'll become an "independent" BradAllison Sep 2021 #31
A month ago after receiving the latest of $750,000 Big Pharm donations Hortensis Sep 2021 #23
+1 Celerity Sep 2021 #26
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Sep 2021 #33

leftstreet

(36,102 posts)
1. This is why GOP always take back House and/or Senate
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:37 PM
Sep 2021

They don't ALLOW members to deviate from the message and agenda

They don't make themselves vulnerable once they have the majority

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
2. It is as if she was the only girl invited to the frat party ....
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:38 PM
Sep 2021

And she is proud of the attention even the next day.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,428 posts)
3. As always, progressives work for the people,
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:39 PM
Sep 2021

conservadems work for their own wallets.

Just like the republicons they emulate, conservadems renege on the deal they made to pass BOTH bills. They can't be trusted any more than R-labelled conservatives.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
15. Sinema presented herself as a non "conservadem", but she's more of one than (almost) anyone else
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:52 AM
Sep 2021

She mines where she thinks the gold is. When that's to the left, she digs Left. When that's to the right, she digs Right.

Right now she's in Right mode.

MLAA

(17,266 posts)
21. True, there really no choice. I sure hope we get a strong candidate
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:29 PM
Sep 2021

to replace her. We will see if any of the real pressure on her to change her positions works, I’m not hopeful.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
10. Does she have a family?
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 11:23 PM
Sep 2021

Do we have the dirt, or am I just excited because the new sopranos movie is coming out Friday.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
11. Why Isn't The Media
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:18 AM
Sep 2021

National, state, and local, asking Sinema EVERY DAY, why is she against what her constituents want? Why isn't she representing her constituents? By ginormous majorities, they want taxes raised on the Rich & Corporate.

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
12. Forty years ago, I saw a really bad movie
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:27 AM
Sep 2021

called The First Family. The only thing I remember is a line about a Democratic Senator who became so rich taking bribes

that he became a Republican.

Response to MurrayDelph (Reply #12)

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
16. It sometimes takes HUMILITY to be a team player. That's the problem with Sinema.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:38 AM
Sep 2021

Put down that money you've been counting, Kyrsten.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
18. I think Sinema is more likely to switch Parties than Joe Manchin.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 06:18 AM
Sep 2021

She has a lot of friends in the Republicon Party.

padah513

(2,498 posts)
20. That's exactly what I think she want to do.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 06:58 AM
Sep 2021

Press her too hard and she has the excuse she's looking for.

Celerity

(43,242 posts)
25. She has zero chance with the Rethug Party, she is openly bi-sexual, pro choice, atheist/agnostic
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:11 PM
Sep 2021

and voted to convict the orange lump of shit known as Trump.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
22. That might have worked out well for her five years ago
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:47 PM
Sep 2021

But today's Republican Party requires unblinking loyalty for Donald Trump and she, for example, voted to impeach him. She would never get past a primary to secure a Republican nomination, even if she switches while in office. More likely she would switch to being an Independent and god only knows who she would try to caucus with, probably whoever offered her the most. That probably means the Republicans, since it would shift Senate control to them. But she could stick around causing trouble in the Democratic caucus if ultimately she thought her path to greatest power was through a centrist coalition of supporters that depended on holding onto some Democratic support.

I think it more likely that she is maneuvering for some near future payoff from the private sector or some right leaning think tank

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. She could do a Lieberman, calling himself an "independent Democrat"
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:08 PM
Sep 2021

and siding with the Republicans whenever he wanted. His enraged, embattled colleagues put up with it to keep his critical vote most of the time, even after he endorsed McCain over Obama.

"It's the vote, Stupid!"

Politics are definitely for the tough.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
27. Yes, that is a distinct possibility
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:16 PM
Sep 2021

As long as she voted to keep Schumer as Majority Leader, keeping Committee Chairs assigned to Democrats etc., the Caucus would probably put up with a lot. But if she does that, any hope she might have of returning to the Senate would have to be as avowed Independent. She would not win either a Democratic or Republican primary in Arizona.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. I hope you're right about that last.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:36 PM
Sep 2021

Though some people are specifically drawn to politicians who can't get elected by Democrats. They won't question that peculiar but critical qualification, or any other, as long as the current option positions himself as anti-establishment and promises to "reform" us.

A recurrent pattern over many elections, and they'll be looking for someone to fill that role in 2024. Sinema's already lying and betraying as SOP, so easy to imagine her positioning herself for it if needed.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
29. It's theoretically possible she could win running as an Independent in Arizona
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:00 PM
Sep 2021

Pulling centrist votes from both parties plus a lion's share of Independents could let her possibly squeak past both a Democrat and Republican in a general election. That would be tough, but possible. But primary voters in both parties tend not to be centrists. I think she would lose out in a primary for either the Democratic or Republican nomination to someone whose views are better aligned to the base of either of those parties.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. :) Sensible and knowledgeable evaluation. I was thinking more
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:43 PM
Sep 2021

worst case. Interestingly, observers keep wondering what she's doing. apparently her behavior doesn't fit a pattern well enough to say so, or none they dare predict yet.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. A month ago after receiving the latest of $750,000 Big Pharm donations
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:52 PM
Sep 2021

Sinema pivoted to oppose allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices. Apparently this is more of The Real Sinema out of the closet.

This is reminding me of Senator Lieberman's dancing with the Republicans and other betrayals, including of course endorsing McCain instead of Obama for president, holding up passage of the ACA to get the public option stripped out, etc, etc.

One year running for reelection as senator from CT, when CT Democrats rejected him in the primary, he ran as a third party candidate (while still calling himself a Democrat!) and won. Hopefully, Sinema won't be able to walk all over the AZ Dems she's spitting on as easily.

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