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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat now Kyrsten since the NYTimes exposed your treachery?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/us/politics/sinema-fund-raiser-social-climate-bill.html'Under Ms. Sinemas political logo, the influential National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors and the grocers PAC, along with lobbyists for roofers and electrical contractors and a small business group called the S-Corp political action committee, have invited association members to an undisclosed location on Tuesday afternoon for 45 minutes to write checks for between $1,000 and $5,800, payable to Sinema for Arizona.
Full vaccinations for the coronavirus will be required, according to the invitation.
The planned event comes during a make-or-break week for President Bidens agenda, when House Democrats are trying to pass a trillion-dollar infrastructure bill that Ms. Sinema helped negotiate, and trying to nail down the details of a social policy and climate bill that could spend as much as $3.5 trillion over the next decade.
Ms. Sinema has said she cannot support a bill that large, and has privately told Senate Democratic colleagues that she is averse to the corporate and individual tax rate increases that both the House and Senate tax-writing committees had planned to use to help pay for the measure.'
leftstreet
(36,102 posts)They don't ALLOW members to deviate from the message and agenda
They don't make themselves vulnerable once they have the majority
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)And she is proud of the attention even the next day.
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)So much to unpack here.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)conservadems work for their own wallets.
Just like the republicons they emulate, conservadems renege on the deal they made to pass BOTH bills. They can't be trusted any more than R-labelled conservatives.
JohnSJ
(92,109 posts)JHB
(37,157 posts)She mines where she thinks the gold is. When that's to the left, she digs Left. When that's to the right, she digs Right.
Right now she's in Right mode.
dweller
(23,620 posts)✌🏻
MLAA
(17,266 posts)padah513
(2,498 posts)You had no way of knowing she was a chameleon.
MLAA
(17,266 posts)to replace her. We will see if any of the real pressure on her to change her positions works, Im not hopeful.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)....in 2018.
czarjak
(11,260 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Do we have the dirt, or am I just excited because the new sopranos movie is coming out Friday.
WHITT
(2,868 posts)National, state, and local, asking Sinema EVERY DAY, why is she against what her constituents want? Why isn't she representing her constituents? By ginormous majorities, they want taxes raised on the Rich & Corporate.
MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)called The First Family. The only thing I remember is a line about a Democratic Senator who became so rich taking bribes
that he became a Republican.
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Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Put down that money you've been counting, Kyrsten.
OnDoutside
(19,949 posts)kentuck
(111,069 posts)She has a lot of friends in the Republicon Party.
padah513
(2,498 posts)Press her too hard and she has the excuse she's looking for.
Celerity
(43,242 posts)and voted to convict the orange lump of shit known as Trump.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)But today's Republican Party requires unblinking loyalty for Donald Trump and she, for example, voted to impeach him. She would never get past a primary to secure a Republican nomination, even if she switches while in office. More likely she would switch to being an Independent and god only knows who she would try to caucus with, probably whoever offered her the most. That probably means the Republicans, since it would shift Senate control to them. But she could stick around causing trouble in the Democratic caucus if ultimately she thought her path to greatest power was through a centrist coalition of supporters that depended on holding onto some Democratic support.
I think it more likely that she is maneuvering for some near future payoff from the private sector or some right leaning think tank
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and siding with the Republicans whenever he wanted. His enraged, embattled colleagues put up with it to keep his critical vote most of the time, even after he endorsed McCain over Obama.
"It's the vote, Stupid!"
Politics are definitely for the tough.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)As long as she voted to keep Schumer as Majority Leader, keeping Committee Chairs assigned to Democrats etc., the Caucus would probably put up with a lot. But if she does that, any hope she might have of returning to the Senate would have to be as avowed Independent. She would not win either a Democratic or Republican primary in Arizona.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Though some people are specifically drawn to politicians who can't get elected by Democrats. They won't question that peculiar but critical qualification, or any other, as long as the current option positions himself as anti-establishment and promises to "reform" us.
A recurrent pattern over many elections, and they'll be looking for someone to fill that role in 2024. Sinema's already lying and betraying as SOP, so easy to imagine her positioning herself for it if needed.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Pulling centrist votes from both parties plus a lion's share of Independents could let her possibly squeak past both a Democrat and Republican in a general election. That would be tough, but possible. But primary voters in both parties tend not to be centrists. I think she would lose out in a primary for either the Democratic or Republican nomination to someone whose views are better aligned to the base of either of those parties.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)worst case. Interestingly, observers keep wondering what she's doing. apparently her behavior doesn't fit a pattern well enough to say so, or none they dare predict yet.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)It fits her brand
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Sinema pivoted to oppose allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices. Apparently this is more of The Real Sinema out of the closet.
This is reminding me of Senator Lieberman's dancing with the Republicans and other betrayals, including of course endorsing McCain instead of Obama for president, holding up passage of the ACA to get the public option stripped out, etc, etc.
One year running for reelection as senator from CT, when CT Democrats rejected him in the primary, he ran as a third party candidate (while still calling himself a Democrat!) and won. Hopefully, Sinema won't be able to walk all over the AZ Dems she's spitting on as easily.