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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRogue Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller was arrested today and is in the brig.
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Ron Filipkowski
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Rogue Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller was arrested today and is in the brig. He violated a direct, written order to stop posting on social media.
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6:09 PM · Sep 27, 2021
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/marine-corps-officer-stuart-scheller-brig/
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Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller Jr. is currently in pre-trial confinement in the Regional Brig for Marine Corps Installations East aboard Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune pending an Article 32 preliminary hearing, said Capt. Sam Stephenson, a spokesman for Training and Education Command. The time, date, and location of the proceedings have not been determined. Lt. Col. Scheller will be afforded all due process.
Scheller first gained notoriety on Aug. 26, when he posted a video on Facebook and Linkedin criticizing the handling of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan. In the video, Scheller accused senior military leaders of shirking their responsibilities, and questioned some of the command decisions that were made leading up to, and during, the final moments of Americas longest war.
People are upset because their senior leaders let them down, and none of them are raising their hands and accepting accountability or saying, We messed this up, Scheller said in the video.
Stu Scheller Sr. described his son as a proud American who loves the Marine Corps and has served proudly for the past 17 years.
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Beakybird
(3,332 posts)Piasladic
(1,160 posts)Honestly, I feel for him. Getting mental health treatment is so goddamned hard.
Budi
(15,325 posts)...when he choose to violate it.
Perhaps he is in a medical crisis or something not nefarious, so I will simple wish him well.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)not a punitive Article.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Just asking. I don't doubt the Article 32 is for no reason, just more specifically what his public comments is called under military rules.
I know nothing about the military so I ask.
Thanks
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)I'd guess failure to follow orders is in there. Disrespect to a senior officer possibly. Maybe Conduct Unbecoming.
All told probably not enough to get him jail time but definitely enough for a dismissal which is equivalent to a dishonorable discharge if it's at a general court-martial, although I believe they can try officers at a lower level now..
jmowreader
(50,533 posts)Thats Article 133. Article 92, Failure to Obey an Order or Regulation, will probably also be added. They might also try an Article 117, Provoking Speech or Gestures.
Theres also Article 134, the General Article, but some commanders wont use it. My first battalion commander, LTC Jack McGuinness, told his company commanders that if they couldnt come up with a non-Article 134 charge they werent to use Article 15 (the nonjudicial punishment article) to correct the problem.
Budi
(15,325 posts)I see why he was disciplined.
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)jmowreader
(50,533 posts)During the Bush Administration they added 19 subparagraphs to Article 134, none of which is child endangerment. However, child pornography IS one of them.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Uhm, yeah the law (including UCMJ) has specific rules about gag orders and they know exactly how to handle that if you violate them
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)TomSlick
(11,092 posts)Maximum punishment: Dishonorable discharge (dismissal for an officer), forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 2 years.
However, I am skeptical that he is in pretrial confinement which is generally appropriate only in cases in which the accused is a flight risk. I suppose that if the LTC has made it clear he will continue to commit crimes if not confined, pretrial confinement would be appropriate.
Nevilledog
(51,031 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)doesn't put people in pretrial confinement.
You only do it if they are a flight risk, a threat to themselves or others, or basically can't keep from committing more crimes.
There would have to be a hearing within 7 days to determine if he stays in confinement or not before trial. I would guess that if he's ordered to stay away from any statements about the case or social media postings, they will release him. If he refuses, then back in he'd go.
jmowreader
(50,533 posts)If they didnt lock him up, hed keep on doing it.
Ten to one this is the first time any of the MPs on post have ever seen a lieutenant colonel in jail.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)a hearing will be held to see if they've exhausted all means beyond confinement to keep him from committing future crimes.
If he doesn't get released, that will tell you he's being obstinate...if he goes back in, that will tell you he violated whatever orders he was given.
rpannier
(24,328 posts)He's either arrogant, stupid or both
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Like several million other MAGAts
#Cult45
rpannier
(24,328 posts)tarzan00
(1 post)He called Trump a liar and said he is the reason the Nation is divided.
He can't stand any politician apparently and he is standing in the middle of the road getting
hit by both sides of the traffic.
You can see this clearly on his Facebook.
maxrandb
(15,298 posts)You don't get to do that as a member of the military.
Doesn't matter if he is a Democrat, or a Retrumplican. There are avenues available to file grievances, or question leadership in the military. Social media isn't one of them.
It is way past time for the military to start dropping the hammer on this shit.
As a member of the military, the guy is free to vote for, support, or donate to whatever political party that he wants to, but, he is NOT free to put on his uniform, or use his status as a member of the military, to go in public and smear military leadership.
We simply cannot have his kind of behavior in the military.
hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)that they think they retain every right that a civilian does and social media only makes it worse. This guy had been around far long enough to know better, but those comments from the public underscore how little the civilian population understands the differences.
Several mental health professionals who work with the military, PTSD, and other related conditions believe he's ill. I'm sure he will receive an examination, at least. If he's brainwashed by "the cult," even though he does not appear to be aligning with the Trump ilk, well, he will face the consequences.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the government, and so on according to their personal bents. Virtually all are motivated only only noble ideals and causes.
Somehow I doubt this needless self destruction by a mature man is unrelated to the mass self destruction we're seeing all over -- most of it on the right, but also some personality types across the spectrum who are less tethered to reality than average.
Mysterian
(4,568 posts)Pervasive fascist propaganda has turned millions against their own democratic nation.
GoodRaisin
(8,908 posts)COL Mustard
(5,871 posts)Task & Purpose says hes going to prefer charges against General McKenzie. Thats just not normal behavior.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/marine-corps-officer-stuart-scheller-brig/
FelineOverlord
(3,572 posts)And Im sure many will donate.
Champp
(2,114 posts)Son blows off the Military Code of Conduct, gets slap on wrist, parents commence whining and grifting. Total Republican BS.
cstanleytech
(26,248 posts)in the military has to follow lawful orders.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I don't think it could have been done much better. It was going to be a clusterfuck
no matter who was in charge. I'd say that trump's sellout to the Taliban was a definite
factor in the chaos. In the end, the collapse of the Afghan army and the chaos of the
withdrawal only prove that the US needed to get out. Another stupid war, nothing
accomplished but death and destruction.
I'll bet the Lt. Col. and his parents are trumpers.
hatrack
(59,578 posts).
GoodRaisin
(8,908 posts)and found out otherwise.
Where do his parents run to whine? To the fascists on Fox News. Laura Ingraham. Where traitors all run to whine.
Guess they all need a course in military justice. Disobeying a direct order will get you landed in the brig every time.