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Racists whining that voting for a fascist, white supremacists, ethno-nationalist somehow means that everyone else sees them as the racists they are is peak MAGA. Look at them thinking we are not going to label them as they act. Silly rabbits. Anyway they should own their nasty, be proud of it as they attend white supremacist cult rallies of exclusion and hate, and if they don't want too, tough shit... they must ever be shunned as the fascist democracy stealing supporters that they are.
The Wizard
(12,536 posts)is not a river in Egypt.
Walleye
(30,987 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)paleotn
(17,886 posts)ck4829
(35,040 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)And they wonder how we know what they are.
Tadpole Raisin
(972 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)They only want it built on the southern border, where all the brown people come in, but not on the northern border, where it's mostly white people. And, the source, along with Europe, of more "illegals" than what comes up from the south.
Champp
(2,114 posts)Oh, wait. No. You mean the Republicans were lying about that, too? OMG. I am shocked, shocked I tell you.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)How many European tourists or students overstay their visas for years?
Tracer
(2,769 posts)The writers try to put some intelligent research into their articles, but all we get is more denial, more stupidity, more nastiness --- and on and on.
Give it up!!!
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,641 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)Beartracks
(12,801 posts)... accuse Dems of being partisan.
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Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Then you're looking at a MAGAt.
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)and every one I know is a racist.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Not all racists voted for Trump, but all those who voted for Trump are racists....
paleotn
(17,886 posts)Not all Republicans are racist, but all racists are Republicans.
There was a time when that wasn't true, and Dems had their share of racists. Not any more. Not since the great, political sorting that began in the 70's, hit full steam in the 90's and completed the party transformation when Obama become President.
2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)tribalism definitely, but economic anxiety at it's core. Like the extremely profane Lyndon Johnson said, If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. Yet another one of those Bible things utterly overlooked by it's biggest fans, "money is the root of all evil."
paleotn
(17,886 posts)Maintaining slavery in the face of "All men are created equal" and then literally fighting to the death over it was all about money. And class in a rigid, antebellum society. Freed slaves competing with poor whites for scraps of economic opportunity continued to drive it into the 20th century and beyond. The great irony was and is that poor people, no matter the color of their skin, have far more in common with each other than the rich they long to emulate.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Which makes even more sense.
OMGWTF
(3,943 posts)soldierant
(6,800 posts)Money itself is morally neutral - just a means of exchange. It's the greed that's evil.
A mystery writer who worked in the 60's and70's said through one of her chractrers, "Cupidity and stupidity" account for just about all crime. A catchy little phrase.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)To keep an invitation open for more to join in opposition to what's happening on the right.
A lot of conservative people believe they're not racist. Social scientists may not draw the line so clearly, but a pre-tRumpism study I read about found that that's essentially true for these conservatives -- they're not, but they are less outraged by racism. The negative reaction is real, but not to as strong a degree as among liberals with our very strongly egalitarian ethos.
I don't know what trumpism-era studies are showing but, previously, overt displays of racism reliably repelled and were rejected by these conservatives. I've seen this here in the south, among people who disapprove just as strongly as any others I've known.
That's probably why tRump doesn't behave much worse than he does to feed his more rabid following. It's not the Democrats' reaction to his calling neonazis "very fine people" that made him cut way back on that, but reaction from the nicer right.
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)there are some very rich people (not conservative) who aren't racist and voted for Trump. The last conservative Republican may have been Teddy Roosevelt. So when it comes to non-racist rich people having to decide between a Democratic candidate and a fascist candidate, I'm betting the rich guy votes fascist. If people who watched an attempted coup on TV still need coddling to vote Democratic they have been in a coma for 4 years. Maybe we can sway those people over to our side.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)of course. That's always been a conservative strength, or in this case just characteristic since it threatens to destroy them also. The general notion bought into seems to be that the dangers of liberal extremism going way too far require all hands to the pumps.
MSNBC and CNN have a bunch of rational conservatives working every day to sway people like themselves into breaking away to fight what's happening on the right. I suggest Dwight Eisenhower as a moderate and avowedly progressive conservative, by both nature and politics. He'd fit right in with them.
Slammer
(714 posts)Teddy Roosevelt was famed for being a progressive Republican.
The last conservative Republican president was Calvin Coolidge, IMO.
"Conservative" being defined as a small-government conservative who genuinely believed that the powers of the national government are limited by the Constitution...and who governed that way.
Republicans at the time were the party of civil rights so you can't really measure a modern Democrat's personal definition of "conservative" when it comes to race relations and map that onto politicians who existed a century ago.
paleotn
(17,886 posts)All but a couple wouldn't vote for Trump if you held a gun to their heads. Some didn't vote in 2020 as a sort of protest. Some "held their noses" and voted for Biden. None would be considered overtly racist, but all refuse to believe that they benefit from our institutions that include embedded racism. Raising too much of a ruckus over that would upset the apple cart. A system that benefits them personally.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)I know 2 Democrats who changed their party registration when President Obama became the nominee.
Traildogbob
(8,685 posts)They wear their favorite black man jersey during football season. Perform for me boy, then get out of my sight after season ends.
progressoid
(49,952 posts)Kaepernick and all those others that dare to take a knee.
Traildogbob
(8,685 posts)Cant have em get uppity and out of place. Guess those ball fans are in MAGA 45 jerseys.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Brother Mythos
(1,442 posts)be flashing FASCISTS FOR TRUMP, RACISTS FOR TRUMP, and TRAITORS FOR TRUMP t-shirts.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,641 posts)Brother Mythos
(1,442 posts)"Sociopath Traitor Douche."
jaxexpat
(6,805 posts)DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)That the voters will vote for the repubs because change is not happening fast enough. That is when I know we will be doomed.
KG
(28,751 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,641 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,141 posts)You got your run of the mill KKK fascist. They hate everyone except white, male, Protestant, abled, heterosexual, authoritarians. Anything outside that is concentration camp worthy. Even white women and very "respectable" white men are hated just because they don't hate the people the racists hate. If you think about it, your run of the mill KKK fascist has a very small world of "very fine" people.
Then you have Nazis. They are very similar to your KKK haters except they reserve more hate for Jewish people.
Then you got all sorts of degrees of Nazis and KKK fascists. Some don't even hate people of color or Jews. They just don't want them around their homes, country, family or jobs. These are the ones who claim they're not racist. But they wouldn't care if people of color or Jews were rounded up and put into concentration camps. As long as the others aren't around them, they are fine.
All different ways to hate other people. Then add some religion to it and you got a steaming pile of hate mongers. All done so the filthy rich can get more filthy.
marble falls
(57,015 posts)GOP race policy condensed.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,641 posts)paleotn
(17,886 posts)even while they were gassing them. Final Solution?
calimary
(81,139 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:58 AM - Edit history (2)
Thats just too damn bad. If it walks like a bigot, talks like a bigot, dresses like a bigot (hint: the infamous MAGA hat ), and acts like a bigot, then maybe - just maybe - its A BIGOT.
On edit -
Btw - I searched for that Atlantic article. The one I found was titled Were all tired of being called racists. But the basic point seemed to be the same.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,641 posts)and people will stop calling you these things.
Imagine how often this simple solution eludes them.
Hotler
(11,400 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,641 posts)liberalla
(9,227 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)If the shoe fits, I'll kick you in the ass with it.
Don't like being called racist? Obviously you have me confused with someone who gives a shit. You want sympathy, it's in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.
heckles65
(547 posts)That's like the "economic anxiety" crap that was so big in the media about four years ago.
bdamomma
(63,803 posts)if any brains at all. It's called Cognitive Dissonance if they believed in the truth their brains would blow up. You can't fix stupid.
KS Toronado
(17,158 posts)whenever they're talking to or about the other side of the aisle.
They own it, let 'em try to defend it.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,641 posts)KS Toronado
(17,158 posts)Try it sometime, you could use a good brainwashing!
good luck getting elected.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,641 posts)Let the ones I know will never vote for me get their brains washed.
DemUnleashed
(633 posts)Well, if the shoe fits...!
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Brought out the racism in these loons unquestionably.
Denial that white supremacist rants in half a dozen forms was the basis of TFG's rise to power to begin with, astonishingly hypocritical. I'll likely never know now whether RWNJ's on the embarrassingly racist, all to white-proud side of my lineage will have survived the pandemic. Considering some of the discriminatory disowning behavior some of them cut off all ties with my "mixed blood" brothers and I long ago now, I'd have to search the entire haystack to find the needle representing how much I care.
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)You are uninformed, misinformed, ignorant, and anti American.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,641 posts)cilla4progress
(24,718 posts)those guys
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,069 posts)2024 Grifter Redux and Insurrection 2 seem like possibilities
Dukkha
(7,341 posts)Grokenstein
(5,721 posts)Link to tweet
The article's from 2019, and "bigots" in the headline is actually "racists," but it's still relevant today and frankly "bigots" is more accurate; they don't exclusively hate people based on race, they will scramble to find ANY excuse.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/08/trump-supporters-called-racists/595333/
Moebym
(989 posts)By the media and politicians from both sides who wanted their precious votes...
We wouldn't be having this problem, would we?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,088 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 29, 2021, 01:26 PM - Edit history (1)
First I wondered how she came up with that. Then realized it's likely due to our 2 or 3 Muslim members of Congress. Is there much else to that proclamation? Leslie Stahl didn't question it.
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