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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill Smith on "Black LIves Matter" and "Defund the Police."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/will-smith-black-lives-matter-defund-police_n_6151e5e3e4b0016411976688This is a difficult area to discuss, but I feel like the simplicity of Black Lives Matter was perfect, he said. Anybody who tries to debate Black Lives Matter looks ridiculous. So when I talk about the marketing of our ideas, Black Lives Matter was perfection.
By comparison, he argued, Defund the police doesnt get it done, no matter how good the ideas are.
mopinko
(70,090 posts)if you dont get a chance to define it, you're screwed.
if there isnt a follow up question of- what does that mean- yeah, no, we're fucked.
but i've yet to hear a message that says what is meant that is short enough for a soundbite. mostly because this problem has been around forever and they've all been tried.
i'm sorta hopeful that vax mandates are gonna weed out a lot of trouble.
but i almost want to get a tattoo w the full expression about bad apples.
cuz the thing is, you're supposed to throw them out. but i dont see that happening anywhere.
brush
(53,771 posts)What he says about critcal race theory is just pure common sense. Critcal race theory may as well be a foreign language to most people. "Truth Theory" makes sense.
Defund the police is a prickly subject here on DU but you're correct. If there's no follow-up question to explain what is meantactually re-allocate police fundsyou've lost most people because the phrase literally means "no money for the police". Black and Brown people know what is the intent because we've experienced bad policing in our hoods for generations but instinctively most of us know that phrase is bad marketing. It's a vote loser.
malaise
(268,966 posts)mopinko
(70,090 posts)and i still say- when the people getting their heads stove in send up some words, imma use them.
but the way it's reported and distorted is an obvious reality.
i had the fun experience of being a guest of cook county for a day recently, and honestly, all these whiners should spend a night in jail.
i mean, i know this shit, but it's really hard to fathom the depths of the petty cruelty of it if you are any kind of decent person. i mean, right down to the disgusting food they serve.
to innocent people. i am, actually, innocent. *
and that's how they treated an old white lady who kept her mouth shut.
i grew up in a small town, and couldnt wait to get away from the small town cops.
but big city cops are an equally odious animal for the most part.
glad to see them sick or unemployed. either way, hang on to your freedums, ya morons.
* i failed to appear in court because i had not been summoned. twice
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)brush
(53,771 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)But when it comes to slogans, "abolish the police" is an activist slogan, not a political one.
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)Im not a fan but hes right about the bad messaging.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)bamagal62
(3,256 posts)Not sure who started the sound bite, but I imagine it was a Republican. It sends the wrong message and is not whats intended at all.
Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)Mosby
(16,306 posts)People assume it's about looking at race critically.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)brush
(53,771 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,911 posts)brush
(53,771 posts)I'd shorten it even further by taking out the word "the".