What possible excuse is there for keeping the filibuster on a bill to raise the debt ceiling

[dsc]

I admit, I think the filibuster is a manifestly bad idea and the root of many of our problems in DC, but even if you are for this, what possible reason is having a filibuster for what should be a perfunctory vote would there be. We literally are giving the minority the ability to tank the entire world's economy and allowing them to blame the majority. It isn't encouraging bipartisanship (in point of fact, bipartisanship is off the table).

[Voltaire2]

1. ask Manchin and Sinema. nt.

[Carlitos Brigante]

4. Is there a cover charge for that? nt

[ColinC]

12. They have principle$

[Carlitos Brigante]

14. .

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[Tom Rinaldo]

2. It'a to encourage bipartisanship and the deliberative process

Ian't that obvious?

[FalloutShelter]

3. Just me opinion, but...

I think the R’s want the filibuster gone. I think they are holding the debt ceiling hostage to force the Dems to get rid of the filibuster.

They are going to steal the midterms and when they do, as they expect, get back both houses, the Dems will have no way to prevent them from taking apart the rest of the train.

It will destroy the Biden Presidency, deliver the oval… game, set, match.

Again… just my guess.

[leftieNanner]

5. I have the same idea

That's what Mitch did with the judicial filibusters. He forced Harry Reid to remove the filibuster on the regular judges, so then Mitch could remove it for SCOTUS. If the Dems are forced (and they may be) to do any special carve-outs (Debt ceiling, voting rights), then Mitch will see it as his opening to get rid of them completely IF he is back in the majority.

[Walleye]

8. This. Beat me to it

[Midnight Writer]

6. Me, too. McConnell wants to kill the filibuster and blame it on Democrats.

[Walleye]

7. Yep. Look at how they blame Harry Reid for killing the filibuster on supreme court nominations

In my opinion the filibuster will go away eventually either way. It’s just a question of whether we get to benefit from it

[Voltaire2]

10. they won't have the votes to override a veto

so they won't be able to dismantle anything. But they sure can obstruct.

[leftieNanner]

11. Mitch is playing the long game

He's aiming for a Republican POTUS on January 20, 2025.

Then it'll be Mitch Arson Time.

[mitch96]

13. "Then it'll be Mitch Arson Time."... if he lives that long.. Can't they just dump the filibuster

for the debt ceiling? A selective cut?
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[leftieNanner]

15. Yes they can

But once they have breached the limit, Mitch will blow it wide open. Plus he will blame the Dems for what he himself will do. That is one of the reasons Manchin has said that he doesn't want to change the filibuster.

[jalan48]

9. The filibuster allows Senators to vote for a bill for political posturing reasons

while they know the bill will never withstand a filibuster. It's a big part of the political theater that goes on in our government. Like the Electoral College, the filibuster is a shield, a check on direct democracy.