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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSanders urges House Democrats to vote against infrastructure bill before reconciliation
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Tuesday urged House Democrats to vote against the bipartisan infrastructure bill until Congress approves the partys reconciliation package, heightening the standoff between moderates and progressives as key components of President Bidens legislative agenda hang in the balance.
Sanders, in a series of tweets posted on Tuesday, said the passage of the bipartisan infrastructure bill on Thursday without the reconciliation package would be in violation of an agreement that was reached within the Democratic Caucus in Congress.
He also said such a move would end all leverage that we have to pass a major reconciliation bill.
Link to tweet
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/574347-sanders-urges-house-democrats-to-vote-against-infrastructure-bill-before
Walleye
(31,097 posts)Does he think voting against his partys bill makes a statement, or does he expect it to produce results this way
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Uhhh which party is his party?
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)Some people think preserving the status quo as things get worse and worse are the keys to success in 2022.
Walleye
(31,097 posts)OnDoutside
(19,982 posts)have already double crossed the Progressives, so why would they trust them again ?
Walleye
(31,097 posts)OnDoutside
(19,982 posts)this had blown up now, at the last minute. The fear is that once the bipartisan deal gets passed, the likes of Gottheimer and Manchin will kill the Reconciliation bill. And I can't blame Sanders for his caution, in light of this.
As regards a solution from where things stand now, I think if Nancy was to publicly state that she will hold back the bill from President Biden's desk until the Reconciliation bill passes (and agreement that the Manchins etc won't ratf*ck it), then that might well be enough to move forward.
questionseverything
(9,664 posts)Once it is passed we wont have any leverage for the reconciliation bill
Its the reconciliation bill the people want and would benefit from
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)Who is we and what less leverage do we have against what if we wait on this bill to pass both bills later?
TexasTowelie
(112,527 posts)Is President Biden supposed to meet with Senators Manchin and Sinema prior to the House voting? I think that Bernie should let the president continue to negotiate with those senators to find a compromise. Playing the game that Bernie suggests is likely to get us with no bill passed and no reason for voters to want to reelect Democrats in 2022.
AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)There is no Medicare for All for example in the bill so progressives in the House and Senate settled for the compromises in this bill. I thought both bills were already agreed to as Sanders points out.
I dont support Sinema scaling back the bill or whatever game she is playing.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)1. We pass the BIF on Thursday
2. Reconciliation gets pushed to...the future.
or
1. BIF fails
2. Negotiations get serious
3. Both bills pass in some form a month or so from now
Which path makes more sense for progressives? For Democrats?
JohnSJ
(92,470 posts)honest.abe
(8,685 posts)Republicans are cheering Sanders.
FBaggins
(26,775 posts)If you get together with 49 other Democrats and everyone is onboard
you have an agreement. Or if youve negotiated with some of the opposition you might have an agreement. But merely agreeing with other progressives (even if thats 90%of the caucus) doesnt matter if that isnt enough votes to pass something.
Manchin clearly never signed on to a strategy of passing both bills together. Heck
his whole purpose in pushing the infrastructure bill was to create this scenario. And Sanders purpose in pushing for them to be joined was to pressure moderates to back the larger bill. Obviously there would be no need for such pressure if there really was an agreement within the Democratic caucus
End all leverage makes that clear - since theres obviously no leverage with Republicans.
Progressives agreed with party leadership on a strategy. That isnt surprising since leadership is largely made up of progressives. It isnt leaderships fault that the strategy needs to change when circumstances show that the first plan didnt work.
Contrawise - when you make a deal with the opposition in exchange for something you need
not keeping your word is damaging the next time you need their support.