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No infrastructure bill should pass without a $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill. (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sep 2021 OP
Perfect shouldn't be the enemy of the good SoonerPride Sep 2021 #1
That's just it the infrastructure bill itself; isn't all that good, Uncle Joe Sep 2021 #2
Doing nothing is the enemy of good Walleye Sep 2021 #3
We are doing something TWO TRACKS. n/t Uncle Joe Sep 2021 #4
I think we'll get there, I am sincerely hoping for the whole deal. Walleye Sep 2021 #5
I think so too. The final number will probably be less than 3.5T though. brush Sep 2021 #10
Nobody likes it, but compromise is essential to governing in a democracy Walleye Sep 2021 #11
Yes. A good amount of something is better than nothing every time. brush Sep 2021 #12
Climate, hearing and eyes, drug prices, and free pre-K and 2 years of applegrove Sep 2021 #6
Actually for some reason about 2/3s of the child tax credits approved a couple months ago questionseverything Sep 2021 #9
They forgave Obama's rough Obamacare start. applegrove Sep 2021 #14
That's not the same at all questionseverything Sep 2021 #15
First I've heard of it and I go everywhere looking for things to post in DU. N/T applegrove Sep 2021 #16
What I am trying to say is, questionseverything Sep 2021 #17
Climate Change is going to make COVID look like a walk in the park. texasfiddler Sep 2021 #7
we all know it's not going to be 3.5 qazplm135 Sep 2021 #8
pelosi made an agreement with progressivess and is now going back on it rdking647 Sep 2021 #13
Katie Porter is nailing it on Chris Hayes malaise Sep 2021 #18

Uncle Joe

(58,359 posts)
2. That's just it the infrastructure bill itself; isn't all that good,
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 07:09 PM
Sep 2021

it's more like the perfect being the enemy of the mediocre.

brush

(53,776 posts)
10. I think so too. The final number will probably be less than 3.5T though.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 07:51 PM
Sep 2021

Manchin and Sinama have both said they can't support 3.5T but have not said no to a lesser number. It might be 3.0T or 2.75T as a need for pragmatism becomes necessary.

3.0T or 2.75T is still a huge amount of money and will allow us to say in the mid-terms and in '24 that we delivered on our campaign promises. Then we get at it, win another term for Biden/Harris and get the cuts done now restored.

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
6. Climate, hearing and eyes, drug prices, and free pre-K and 2 years of
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 07:12 PM
Sep 2021

Community College are all popular with the public. I hope they get publicized this week and the public gets educated. Will help us in 2022 midterms, whether or not BBB happens. Put Katie Porter on a national tour with Bernie Sanders going to 50 States. That will cook GOP's goose.

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
9. Actually for some reason about 2/3s of the child tax credits approved a couple months ago
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 07:40 PM
Sep 2021

Haven’t gone out this month and people in my hood are upset

Having “ good intentions “ and not delivering just makes people mad especially when we control both Congress and the White House

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
15. That's not the same at all
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 08:19 PM
Sep 2021

These child tax credits are written into law, that they haven’t been delivered this month is devastating to low income families

It has been ignored here at du but it is a huge problem

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
17. What I am trying to say is,
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 08:26 PM
Sep 2021

When democrats have the power to help us and refuse to, people figure why bother?

If democrats stand strong and manage to get a good
Bbb passed we will be in power for a long time but roads and bridges ain’t enough…

texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
7. Climate Change is going to make COVID look like a walk in the park.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 07:34 PM
Sep 2021

The 1.2 trillion bill does little to combat the causes of Climate Change.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
8. we all know it's not going to be 3.5
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 07:37 PM
Sep 2021

Bernie knows that too, but there's zero reason why it can't be 2 or 2.5.

If moderates came back with that, the left would grudgingly accept.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
13. pelosi made an agreement with progressivess and is now going back on it
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 07:58 PM
Sep 2021

progressives arent going to agree to that.

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