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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI was on a FB thread where 2 different people said they each knew THREE people
people who were fully vaccinated and died from Covid. I think the chances are so very low and I believe they are lying. One is some sort of evangelical and the other looks like a Trump supporter but I can't be sure.
Does anyone remember that woman who had the calculator and she actually showed the chances of dying from Covid if you are fully vaxxed? It was on a thread here.
I've asked both these women to tell us the names of the people who died because their names would be in the papers and on the internet. (so it shouldn't be a secret if someone died!)
I am sick of these people and their games.
EDIT - All SIX of these people were less than 60 years old.
budkin
(6,688 posts)are obvious
ItsjustMe
(11,164 posts)They are lying.
Maraya1969
(22,441 posts)Ocelot II
(115,267 posts)and those posts probably came from eastern European troll farms.
JanMichael
(24,846 posts)Unless of course you know a bunch of people that are in stage 4 cancer or some other chronic issues then the odds are better.
louis-t
(23,199 posts)I only know a total of 6 people who died from it. 3 were elderly, 80 plus, one about 70, one was 60, one under 50. Four of the oldest were in poor health or in a nursing home. I know close to a hundred people who had it. None had been vaccinated. I know 2 people who had it twice before getting vaccinated. I don't know anyone yet that got it after being vaccinated, although there is one guy that had it, got vaccinated, and claims he might have it again.
niyad
(112,424 posts)center after a serious fall. Staff member had it, one entire wing of the center is inisssolation. Fortunately, her case is fairly mild, even with her extensive comorbidities. I know 3 more fully vaxxed people who have been exposed in the last two weeks. All negative, thank goodness. I knew 3 people who died last year before the vaccine was available, and seven who had covid, none hospitalised. All fully vaxxed the minute they were eligible. One who had it last October still has no sense of taste.
bottomofthehill
(8,261 posts)SIR, I am sorry, you are fully vaccinated but you are going to die. I loved his BS detector sir
PortTack
(32,605 posts)Cant seem to post videos from TikTok, but its at the link
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMR7RAeYR/
As a side note, this young woman has a mission. she lost her 54 yr old very fit healthy father pre- vaccination to Covid. Frustrated, but just wants to see everyone get vaccinated. If you look at the dresser in the background of the video, you can make out some sort of wooden container with a mask on it and sunglasses...its her fathers funeral urn containing his ashes.
Maraya1969
(22,441 posts)mainer
(12,013 posts)They never know names.
cadoman
(792 posts)I think you can rest easily. I've only known one person who died post-vaccination in my entire circle, and they are three to four degrees of separation out and quite elderly.
Keep in mind that a TON of people have been vaccinated, to the point that deaths post vaccination will just be statistical noise.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,271 posts)VarryOn
(2,343 posts)tritsofme
(17,320 posts)In her early 50s with a preteen daughter. She had fought and beat breast cancer in 2020, while avoiding Covid, was able to get both her doses, but the cancer treatment likely made her more vulnerable to severe infection.
Still hard to be believe she is gone.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Say no more. Its probably a foreign site spewing propaganda
Martin68
(22,663 posts)Shellback Squid
(8,909 posts)groups concentrate as they get older, they may have known the same people
FakeNoose
(32,328 posts)In a nutshell:
What are the odds of catching Covid in 2021?
Unvaxxed
1 in 8 Chance of catching Covid
1 in 61 Chance of dying from Covid
Fully Vaxxed
1 in 13,402 Chance of catching Covid
1 in 86,500 chance of dying from Covid.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)I don't see any links.
Lucky Luciano
(11,242 posts)According to her, you are 86500/61 ~ 1400 times more likely to die of Covid if you are not vaxxed. I think the numbers are probably closer to 20 unvaccinated dying for every vaccinated unadjusted for the proportion that are vaccinated. Whatever the numbers are, the analysis should be more like that not the questionable way she did it .either way, the numbers clearly and indisputably suggest getting vaccinated!
FakeNoose
(32,328 posts)... and those are incomplete, of course. We haven't finished out the year yet.
Lucky Luciano
(11,242 posts)
an adjustment for the percentage vaccinated is by far the way to go.
We have enough data to correct errors of her size. 1400ish vs 20ish can certainly be distinguished at this point.
FakeNoose
(32,328 posts)If anyone who wants further info they need to visit the original TikTok thread, and most of us have no interest. If you would like to explore further, have at it my friend.
I posted the numbers because she talks so fast that I can barely understand while she's quoting them.
BigmanPigman
(51,430 posts)need regulation, as well ad the other tech companies. Are Warren and Porter on this?
LiberalFighter
(50,477 posts)albacore
(2,386 posts)Hekate
(90,189 posts)
a breakthrough case and was pretty miserable for a week, but no hospitalization. An adult nephew has a breakthrough case.
These are reliably sourced. I have not heard of anyone dying.
lame54
(35,130 posts)Septua
(2,233 posts)..90% +/- of covid patients in hospitals are unvaccinated, which is fact.By and large, the vaccine is effective but it's not 100%.
live love laugh
(12,995 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)"My sister is a nurse and she says her hospital has an entire floor full of vaccinated COVID patients who are all terminal."
"I know they're padding the COVID death count because my buddy died in a car crash but they put COVID as cause of death."
These MAGA trolls must get trained on how to concoct bogus personal anecdotes to prop up even the lamest claim.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)That's six anecdotal vaccinated deaths versus more than six hundred thousand unvaccinated deaths. If I'm going to roll the dice for my life, I'd rather be on the side with one one hundred thousandth as many deaths (0.00001).
AverageOldGuy
(1,459 posts). . . well, there you have it. It's clearly bullshit.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)radical noodle
(7,990 posts)I had a person on Facebook tell me that she personally knew 25 people who died from getting the vaccinations.
TexasTowelie
(111,278 posts)The claims on Facebook were that he not only had both doses of the vaccine, but the booster as well. Considering that this person was distrustful of the government, didn't have any significant risk factors, and only 61 years old, I have trouble believing that he had a booster during the short time he would have been eligible. Even if it was true though, he wouldn't have had much time to build up any antibodies. I noted that his obituary did not mention COVID and that he simply "passed away."
sakabatou
(42,082 posts)Besides, making an argument from anecdotes is terrible.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Really not a good idea to have an account there.
Also, they steal and sell your data.
CTyankee
(63,768 posts)used to tell me: You lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.