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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre Democrats/ Liberals too obsessed with Donald Trump?
First off, when I ask that, I dont mean in the past when he was President. There was obviously a lot to be concerned about at the time. Instead I mean are they too obsessed with him now? I suppose hes a good boogie man for non-Republicans and his buffoonish behavior is easy to mock. However, it seems the nonstop, wall to wall coverage I still see of Donald Trump is way, way too much. When I make my rounds to various media outlets to see the days news, its all about Donald Trump. The stupid shit he says, the wild accusations he makes, the ever present threat that his supporters are going to blow up the entire country out of no where, claims he is about to be arrested for this or that.
On the one hand, I think its important for people to remember just how quickly things can go to shit if they dont vote but at the same time, hes just some guy now. Sure a bunch of fanatical meth tweakers still act like hes some kind of god but beyond that, is there any reason we need to know about Donald Trumps every move and everything he says? Cant we just start the process of moving on and no longer giving Donny Diaperload endless attention and media coverage?
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)And then what?
"The Republican party won't back him, don't worry"
"He can't win a general election, don't worry"
"The Congress/Senate won't find a way to get him installed, don't worry"
Ocelot II
(115,692 posts)You don't want to look because it's so awful but you can't help it.
Throck
(2,520 posts)No rent free tenant here.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)activities should be pursued. Including commiting and or inciting an act of sedition.
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)For 5 years Ive read headlines and articles about all of Donald Trumps imminent arrest. I find any claims of his legal troubles to be dubious at this point. Not saying he isnt a criminal but Ive seen no evidence he will ever deal with the consequences of his actions.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)kind of people who chose Hitler as their leader 80 years ago and loyally supported everything he said to. Without them he'd be nothing, but they believe that with him as their leader they can smash America and take over.
With real reason. The Republican Party is currently still tRump's tool. They've already broken our democracy by uniting in one main purpose across the nation. They control a majority of states and are united in all levels of and in all branches of government to overthrow it. And they're all currently working to eliminate the safeguards that kept them from using the elections to take control before.
andym
(5,443 posts)The GOP has been busy creating anti-democratic laws designed not only to suppress voting by making it more difficult, but to allow them to overcome valid elections using the power of state legislature.
His lying led to a seditious attempt to remain President illegally, basically an attempted coup, and he clearly intends to run again.
His lies and self-aggrandizing behavior have led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans from Covid.
So I would answer that the problem is just the opposite, not enough Americans are obsessed with Donald Trump and his attempt to make the country into a fascist playground.
eShirl
(18,491 posts)Mad_Machine76
(24,412 posts)not wanting to let him out of sight, not wanting to risk the possibility of him making a political comeback.
jimfields33
(15,797 posts)I find that sad.
moose65
(3,166 posts)This isn't politics as usual. Trump is a clear threat to democracy who should never have been allowed to get near the White House. And this isn't just political sour grapes.
I didn't vote for nor support Romney, but had he won, I wouldn't have been afraid that he would burn the country down in his pursuit of wealth and power. He would have followed Presidential norms. He would not have had his children working in the White House.
I know the media loves to obsess over both-siderism, but the left has no one who would have been as chaotic as Trump. The man is literally in a category all by himself!
Bev54
(10,052 posts)Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... and follow FAUX News lead for them
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)we seem to be willingly heading into with this ridiculous battle between two bills that both should be passed, the only thing we for sure can use to get our side and some of the middle out to vote IS Trump and the fear of Trump.
So no...the right figured out long ago that bogeymen are effective at getting large turnout.
No reason why it doesn't work in reverse, and I think we saw that in 2020.
hatrack
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Hoyt
(54,770 posts)maxrandb
(15,330 posts)I guess for me, I am about as obsessed with Donnie Dipshit as I would be with a bejeweled, pink unicorn that shit Rainbow Sherbet.
I still can't believe that the absolute Circus Clown con man...a man with platform wingtips, an Earl Scheib spray tan, with everything from his shirt to his pants stuffed to make him seem bigger...a man that looks like a Golden Retriever shaved its ass and sat on his bald head, was elected as the leader of the free world.
So yeah, if walking around with a WTF look on my face for the last 5 years is obsessed, then I plead guilty
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)The threads are easy enough to skip over if I want or read if I am interested.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)For example, trump recently went all out in praise for the 'Jewish space laser causes California wildfire' person.
Marjorie Taylor Greene Claims 'Jewish Space Lasers ...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/marjorie...
Mar 09, 2021 · While Greene didn't use the phrase "Jewish space lasers" in her post, she did lay out a conspiracy theory claiming that the 2018 California wildfires were possibly caused by "lasers . . . '
[Many republicons may be skeptical of this - and some may lean away?]
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Also, you say that you make the rounds of the "media outlets" and the implication is that the media is "liberal" or slanted toward Democrats. Democrats/Liberals watch mainstream outlets for a couple of reasons: 1. We tend to get our news from various outlets, and those outlets are typically what is available in the mainstream. 2. We would not watch explicitly right wing propaganda outlets like Fox and their ideological ilk. 3. Real left wing media can be hostile to liberalism as well as it is hostile to conservatism because of the support of capitalism, so traditional liberals and Democrats would not find a safe space there.
I do agree that the media is too focused on the antics of Donald Trump. Because of the way that liberalism is set up (search for fact, attempts at objectivity, scientific methodological approach) the default setting for much of the news or at least for journalists is biased toward liberalism in some way. However the driver of the news is Capitalism, which despite the mythology, is not directly related to liberalism. Money drives coverage. While the motivations of the ground level journalists in most cases, is to report on important stories in as accurate a way possible, the reality is that the journalist is a small piece in the media landscape. Decisions about stories and slant of coverage are based on analytics, ad revenue, and other factors, including the desires of the owners, shareholders, and executives of the media companies. Incase you didn't know about 6 companies own about 80% or more of the media outlets in the US.
Trump and his brand of conservative politics, is now the operating procedure for the other major political party in the United States. Republicans in every jurisdiction, have to pay attention to what he deems as important because the leaders at the top of the Republican party apparatus have bowed to that notion. Any Republican who has spoken out against him and who has not repented, has been pretty effectively cut out of importance within the party structure.
If the news was driven by fact and integrity and not money, there would be reporting on the peril that this form of politics has on a free society. What a danger Republicanism and American conservatism has become, and what a bankrupt family the Trump's are. The focus would not be on what stupid thing he has said or done, but on the real substantive danger his flirtation with authoritarianism and fascism present to the US and the rest of the world. Alas, while journalists try to hue to a liberal ideal, the media as an industry hues to a capitalist, money making ideal and Trump's stupid antics bring ratings.
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)If Trump does not die in the meantime (may it please God), he will run for re-election. He would sweep the field in a GQP primary - I doubt anyone would run against him.
If the Democrats fail to produce significant results between now and then, Trump will likely win the general election. If that happens, 2024 will be the last real presidential election.
So no, Democrats are not too obsessed with Trump. To the contrary, we are underestimating an existential threat to the republic.