Britney Spears Is Finally Free From Dad Jamie Spears' Control

[demmiblue]

Britney Spears has finally been heard. After 13 years as conservator over the pop star's multi-million-dollar estate, a Los Angeles judge suspended her estranged father Jamie Spears during a hearing on Wednesday afternoon.

Judge Brenda J. Penny granted Spears’ request for certified public accountant John Zabel to be made temporary conservator over her estate. She also ordered Jamie Spears to hand over all assets pertaining to Spears’ estate as soon as possible.

Jodi Montgomery, who oversees Spears’ day-to-day care and medical decisions, will remain the temporary conservator over Spears’ person for the time being.

“This situation is not tenable... This situation is toxic,” Judge Penny remarked while making her ruling. Although the next court date is set for Nov. 12, the conservatorship could be terminated before then.

But as the hearing came to a close, Jamie Spears’ legal team made a last ditch attempt to keep their client in a position of power, telling Judge Penny they intended to appeal her ruling, which the judge quickly shut down by saying her order was not appealable.

While Spears is still shy of being completely freed, Wednesday’s ruling is a major step in the right direction. It comes three months after the 39-year-old detailed at length what she endured during her “traumatizing” and “abusive” ordeal and begged the judge to pave the way to end the legal arrangement and, at the very least, remove her father.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/britney-spears-father-is-immediately-suspended-from-her-conservatorship-after-13-years/

[lame54]

1. Nice

[leftieNanner]

2. From what I understand,

Britney's lawyer will get to see all of the documents that her father has been hiding.

She will finally know all the toxic crap they have been doing - and how many millions of $$ they have sucked into their own pockets.

[Demovictory9]

9. the father is a millionaire from paying himself from her pocket

[OAITW r.2.0]

3. Weird situation,

A fully functional adult under conservatorship?. Very weird.

[Xolodno]

6. Fully functional adult?

No she isn't. She shaved all her hair off, started talking with a British accent, couldn't keep any stable relationships, screwed everything that moved (if memory serves me, her last fling before conservatorship was with one of the paparazzi who were following her), etc.

I figured she would go suicide, hell, that is what the paparazzi were hoping for and be one of the first to photograph it (sick bastards). She obviously has a serious mental illness and was being taken advantage of by just about everyone. Her father may very well be doing the same to an extent and who knows, may be a trigger for her illness. But previous judges have ruled she still needs a conservatorship...obviously a reason for that. We don't have access to her psychiatric records and mental health, but a judge does. That says something.

[vanlassie]

7. Mmmm.... Somehow she managed to continue working

as a money making machine throughout the 13 years she was otherwise held hostage. That does not happen in such conservatorships. Not sure you are that familiar with the details as recently disclosed by several sources.

[Maru Kitteh]

8. What a sexist load of claptrap that is.

She shaved all her hair off. SO FUCKING WHAT. It's her hair right? Other women have shaved their heads. We're allowed. This isn't the Taliban.

She started talking with a British accent. Oh, well THAT'S A GREAT REASON to put a listening device in a woman's bedroom and force her to undergo and maintain chemical & mechanical sterilization.

She was having sex when she wanted to? HOW DARE SHE.

Jesus fucking christ.

[niyad]

12. Exactly.

[littlemissmartypants]

19. And more... Exactly times a million.

I smell BS and a long train of gravy.

[niyad]

25. More like many millions. 16k/month times 13 years is nearly 2.5 million, plus all jaime's

fees. A real gravy train.

[NurseJackie]

43. Thank you.

[Treefrog]

11. See R. Kelly, Michael Jackson, Prince, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis...I could go on.

But guess what’s different with her from them?

[lindysalsagal]

50. Fake eyelashes???

Um, ooops. Right. Ovaries.

[Treefrog]

51. Lol.

Yup.

I’ve never been a fan, but this would never have happened to a male. God, I could go on…Leif Garret, David Cassidy,…it’s a miracle they didn’t try it with Amy Winehouse!,

[pnwmom]

13. And how many male music stars who'd screwed up their lives were put under conservatorships?

Can you name a single one?

How many male music stars who were manic or depressive and/or took drugs?

Can you name a single one?

Why aren't there conservators for all the druggies living on the streets? Normally, it is very hard to get a judge to go along with a conservatorship. One of my good friends had a terrible time trying to get help for a schizophrenic parent because that parent wanted no help. And the judge just listened to the parent.

This has always been a crock.

[Joinfortmill]

18. 13 months, maybe, not for 13 years

[xmas74]

32. I work with mentally ill adults

Most conservatorships are not meant for the long haul. This should have been handled years ago. Also, her conservators lied to her about having power over all of her medical decisions. We know this because they refused to allow her agency over her own body by forcing her to have an IUD implanted.

Her former attorney made millions. Her father has made an as yet undisclosed amount. His only form of employment is as her conservator. Countless people around her have admitted to her father bullying her and forcing staff to cut off her access to the outside world. They've also stated that she repeatedly said she didn't want the Vegas revue or the judging gig on a reality TV show. Her conservator informed her she had no choice and was required by law to work.

This isn't a case of a famous person who needs help. This is a case of a woman who needed help and instead of getting it was denied all agency, turning her into a trapped bird in a guilded cage.

This case will be used as an example of what not to do when establishing long term conservatorship.

[Demsrule86]

36. Bullshit, how much did the drugs forced on her cause this. An adult has a rught to make

her own decisions, I bet he helped himself to her illegally money and now needs go go to jail.

[Cosmocat]

44. This is a pretty bad misread - her father is a major POS

She definitely has mental health issues and did need her family to step in and help manage things around her.

But, her dad is a scumbag POS - at one point he was getting a 6 figure cut from her tours in addition to a 16 k monthly salary, while giving her 8,000 a month.

Between him and the father, they kept her children away from her.

This isn't a loving or even caring dad trying to take care of his daughter - he is a mean ass drunk who had failed in life prior to taking over his daughters empire. HE is the reason she fell into the arms of so many random men. Classic case of a daughter who really needed a good, strong father and he failed in that regard may times over.

The court system failed her in a MAJOR way.

The list of people who took advantage of her goes like this:

James Parnell Spears





















all the others

[Tomconroy]

4. It is strange. Her father was asking that the conservatorship be

Terminated. Her lawyer wanted it continued but with a different conservator. Dan Abrams discussed this on his radio show today.

[pnwmom]

15. There's a very good reason. If the conservatorship had been terminated, as the father asked,

then this would have been the end of the case and of the judge's supervision.

Britney and her lawyer wanted it to be suspended, so they can go ahead with an investigation of her father's handling of the conservatorship, under the court's supervision.

[hunter]

5. I wish there was a happy medium somewhere.

My parents were largely hands-off when I went crazy in my adolescence and young adulthood.

There's a knife scar on my arm and a few other injuries, physical and psychic, I'd much rather have avoided.

Nevertheless, considering their own messed up childhoods, my parents did surprisingly well.

Home was always safe.

It still is.

[Skittles]

10. I had the opposite experience

when I was a teenager it was my parents who went off the rails

[Azathoth]

14. Conservatorships aren't handed out like candy

And judges don't keep people under conservatorships for a decade unless they believe there is strong evidence the person is so disabled they lack the basic capacity to run their own affairs.

Britney and her lawyer have always had the option to petition the judge to terminate the conservatorship.They never took it, presumably because they knew the judge would want updated medical evaluations showing that she was no longer disabled.

The only difference between then and now is that Britney and her new lawyer have adopted the strategy of litigating this on the gossip pages. And millions of uninformed people are more than happy to weigh in and become emotionally invested in "freeing Britney."

[pnwmom]

16. Britney said the court appointed lawyer had never informed her that she could petition

the court.

And the NY Times -- not some gossip pages -- just got some very important new information. Among other things, people hired by her dad were recording her even in her bedroom, and preventing her from contacting any lawyer on her own. But now a former employee of the security firm has come forward to describe exactly what they were doing.

And it appears the conservator and his helpers were violating the law.

[Azathoth]

22. Yes, yes, I know, more tidbits leaked to the media

We don't have her medical records, we don't have access to any audits or financial disclosure information given to the court, and we aren't privy to the full story behind most of the stuff being strategically leaked by her media team. I'll wait for something a little more official from the court.

"Britney said the court appointed lawyer had never informed her that she could petition"

This is obvious nonsense because she initiated the petition under her old lawyer. And it's also self-defeating, because if a 30-something adult as wealthy and connected as she wasn't able to figure out that she could petition the judge -- even if she just raised her hand in court and asked the judge a question during a hearing -- then she clearly wasn't capable of understanding what was going on, much less managing her own affairs.

[pnwmom]

23. No, she didn't initiate it under her old lawyer. She learned about her rights

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in a meeting with a JUDGE, and the judge informed her.

So she did exactly what you are saying she should have done, when she finally had the opportunity to do so. She asked for another hearing and a new lawyer.

The other difference? The previous judge -- the one who had named the good-for-nothing previous lawyer-- has retired. So a new judge is overseeing the case now, and this judge seems to be taking a different attitude toward the case.

[Joinfortmill]

21. You can read up on her case. It might change your opinion.

[sir pball]

24. I have followed her case from the get-go

Brit's a very mentally ill woman [armchair diagnosis schizophrenia] and she she needs constant, involved, ongoing care to ensure that she can function on a daily basis, full stop.

Her father, or anyone with any financial interest in her, is a disgustingly wrong choice to be handling her affairs and shouldn't have the slightest voice in her life, full stop.

It's not a difficult situation, but the public bullshit surrounding it has made it so.

[niyad]

26. And yet, she was able to perform concerts, etc. Fascinating.

[sir pball]

29. Yes, a properly medicated mentally ill person can be

absolutely functional.

Brit, sorry, Ms. Spears has openly said she has been "forced" to take medications which make her feel "drunk" and "disoriented". That is the single most common reason schizophrenics stop medicating, because the meds make them foggy and intoxicated.

We'll see how well Ms. Spears handles having volition over her own medication.

[niyad]

33. Given what I have read (no armchair diagnosis), perhaps she should be evaluated

by independent, competent medical professionals with absolutely zero ties to her scumbag father and his associates.

[pnwmom]

28. I know a woman who had an actual diagnosis of schizophrenia, and her adult daughter

was turned down by a judge when she went to court to try to become conservator. And there were no assets involved -- actually, the only assets belonged to the daughter and her husband. The only way to get the mother into a group home and away from the addicts she was living with was by getting the daughter appointed as guardian.

It was much, much harder than it should have been, and this was with a woman who really was schizophrenic.

I don't think Britney is. And the overwhelming majority of people with bipolar disorder, or whatever her problem is, are allowed to live without conservators.

Can you name a single male rock star EVER who got put under a conservatorship because he raised a ruckus, lost money, and took some drugs?

[sir pball]

30. Brit didn't "raise a ruckus"

She was, is, seriously mentally ill. Now, her father nor anyone else financially interested in her should have a say...but she still need pills forced down her gullet.

TBH with no adult supervision I give her six months till she's shaving her head again.

[pnwmom]

31. Since when do people who shave their heads need conservators or supervision? n/t

[Demsrule86]

47. Exactly...let me say only women are railroaded like this.

[niyad]

34. Who diagnosed her in the first place? What connection did that person have to

her father and that first judge?

And what, exactly, is your issue with Ms. Spears? How is she impacting your life?

[Demsrule86]

42. They mentioned the prescriptions and none were appropriate. She has been denied medical.

care IMHO and worked like a dog. Mental health care doesnt work that way.

[Demsrule86]

37. I dont agree. There are awful abuses these dsys. She has a right to lead her own life. Her Father is

sick He put a camera in her bedroom and worked her like a dog. His grandkids have a restraining order against him. So she is so troubled and all but can work night and day making money for daddy dearest?

[Joinfortmill]

17. Thank goodness

I suspect Daddy may soon be indicted.

[littlemissmartypants]

20. He should be. He's been the head of a criminal enterprise. nt

[Demsrule86]

38. I hope so.

[ripcord]

27. The problem wasn't a conservatorship, it was this one

Her father was incredibly controlling, a true conservatorship works with the ward to help them and get them what they want as long as it is safe. It has noting to do with controlling the wards life or relationships and certainly doesn't include putting a listening device under their bed and monitoring their communications. This isn't that uncommon but usually it isn't news because there aren't usually abuses, Amanda Bynes, Brian Wilson and Joni Mitchell were all under conservatorships. What Britney needs is a limited conservatorship that only handles her business finances and leaves her to deal with her personal life.

[obamanut2012]

35. Great post

You mention Amanda Bynes. That is how parents should handle a conservatorship. Her parents are good eggs.

[Demsrule86]

40. No they are not. Both sued. The mother won. She accused her dad of sexual abuse

and later recanted. I dont know...the situation is troubling and both parents should be disqualified. She could have been threatened in some way or drugged. It should be handled by a judge. Parents should not make living controlling adult kids.

[Demsrule86]

39. No. She can handle her own affairs. It is her right. She should control her own life.

[ripcord]

45. You can't know that without seeing her mental health evaluations

[Demsrule86]

46. Look at what her so called father did...if she can work as hard as Daddy dearest forced her to,

I am sure it is a bunch of bullshit...what father makes his grown daughter work night and day for his personal gain while keeping her as poor as a church mouse? He hired spies as well and reportedly and placed cameras throughout her house (never a home) including her bedroom. He is obsessed with her boyfriends. I wonder who watched those films?

My daughter has had mental issues and the medication she (Brittany) takes is inappropriate for her so-called condition...her father is a piece of crap who used her and undoubtedly worsened her mental health.

People need to manage their own affairs period. He spied on her and limited access to her because he knew IMHO... that he was manipulating her and the system for personal gain. "The guilty flee where no man pursueth". I hope he rots in jail. He took away her personhood and there can be no worse crime.

[pnwmom]

48. Since when do non-rich people get conservators simply because they shave their heads,

hit a car with an umbrella, and lose a bunch of money?

Other people are allowed to screw up. She has been held prisoner for 13 years because she was extremely wealthy, and a bunch of people including her father are living off her wealth.

[Demsrule86]

41. That is untrue. There are awful abuses of conseratorships- paricularly of the elderly.

[llashram]

49. good

she is a strong woman, who while having some issues, who on this planet doesn't. That world she lives in is tough on the famous even with money. As a free-thinking adult, she did not need her father in her business or personal affairs. I have always respected her strength in fighting off the wolves of her world...

[IA8IT]

53. Don't die Britney. Health and Happiness