In dealing with Sinema, and it's factual that Sinema is raking in the Big Pharma cash, are there any

[OnDoutside]

EOs Biden could sign that would badly lean on Big Pharma, or threaten to do so, to get them to put the pressure on her ?

[Tomconroy]

1. You'd need to lean on Bob Menendez too.

[TreasonousBastard]

2. To do what? What large company would buy a politician to do...

what someone else asks it to do?

[OnDoutside]

4. To take the heat off another attack point ?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215904057

[betsuni]

3. Many politicians receive donations from Pharma employees.

What evidence is there of corruption? How does that work? Staff calling up every person who donates money and asking them what they want and the candidate has to do everything they say? Is it impossible for people working in the pharma industry to be Democrats supporting Democratic policies and that's why they donated to a Democrat? Why not? It doesn't make any sense. If someone working for the pharma industry wants Republican policies, they'd donate to Republicans.

[OnDoutside]

6. Seriously ? This isn't about receiving money from staff.

I work a US Pharma company (and have previously worked for US Pharma companies). They uniformly are not friends of the Democratic Party, but they'll support "friendly Dems", in the way Sinema now is so anti reform of the Prescription drug legislation. Ultimately they are greedy bastards.



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215904057

and much the same as Manchin had a huge Oil Industry fundraiser in Texas last August.

[betsuni]

9. It's illegal for a legislator to receive money from corporations or to directly

profit from PACs, isn't it? Why does the motivation always have to be money? Can't someone just be an ideologue or an asshole or nutty? Why the insistence on money as the only motivation?

This?

"The point that I make over and over again is the ideas that I talk about are the ideas the American people want. They don't get it because you got a Congress indebted to wealthy campaign contributors."

Weak.

[Doc Sportello]

16. LOL

Really? Pols are not indebted to large corporations that give them large amounts of cash? What planet are you living on? To say that response is weak would be an understatement.

[betsuni]

17. The planet of reality. Not everyone is corrupted by money. That's silly.

Populist utopian saviors make a hell of a lot of money too. "If you write a best selling book, you can be a millionaire too."

[Doc Sportello]

22. "Not everyone is corrupted by money"

I don't know what planet you are on but it's not one called the reality of politics. Yes, pols are corrupted by money. Because not all of them are, I guess that means in your mind that none are. Oh, except for those many "populist utopian saviors" - whoever the hell they are. I always find it interesting that on a Democratic site, there are so many apologists for large corporations and their enablers. You would think they would be concerned for, oh I don't know, senior citizens in a place like Arizona that has so many and who could use help reducing the price of drugs. Apparently not Sinema. But she's a "centrist" so that means she is good. Not bad like those utopian populist saviors.

[lagomorph777]

18. That's hilarious.

You can't possibly be that naive.

[betsuni]

20. Well, I don't believe in conspiracy theories about Democrats being "corporate Dems" beholden

to "wealthy donors and corporations."

[BeyondGeography]

10. Corporations are people too!

Oh, I know, these are individuals spending from the heart ergo there’s no such thing as corporate-owned or influenced politicians.

C’mon now.

[betsuni]

12. It's illegal for corporations to directly donate to candidates.

Staff has to get in touch with every person who donates to Democrats to find out what they want and candidates have to do everything they say? Come on now. If people want Republican policies they'd donate to Republicans.

[BeyondGeography]

13. Scott Peters gets more money from individuals connected to pharma co's

than anyone in the House. So when he votes no on HR 3 I think people can be excused from making the connection.

[betsuni]

15. Barack Obama set a record for donations from Wall Street employees in 2008.

He still regulated Wall Street. A politician can always get new donors. Same as ballet companies, opera, charities that depend on donations.

Again, how does anyone know what donors want unless they're contacted individually and asked? The idea that everyone's corrupted by money is silty.

[lagomorph777]

19. He's a good example of what we're talking about.

How many Wall Street crooks went to jail for their schemes to crash the economy in 2008/9? How many got trillions in bailouts instead?

[betsuni]

21. Oh right, "Thanks, Obama" -- all his fault.

[BlueLucy]

14. It's clear corruption.

She's raking in money from people who appose Biden's agenda. She is also refusing to say what she opposes in the bill or even try to say what she would be OK with. There is no question about it.

[Hortensis]

5. No.

[OnDoutside]

7. I had discounted your opinion anyway, so that's grand....

[Hortensis]

8. I believe there are ethical issues, plus wouldn't work.

[dsc]

11. possible yes, good idea, no

because if it came out he did it, he would be crucified.