Republicans are systematically killing their voters.

[Botany]

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[Sherman A1]

1. Okay by me

The vaccine and masks 😷 are both easy to access. Folks that choose to skip them are responsible for the consequences.

[Mr. Steve]

21. abso-damn-lutly

Every choice comes with consequences that must be accepted, come what may.

[sarchasm]

29. I'm pretty sure Darwin discussed this at length.

[Celerity]

2. that is something I refuse to lament (other than the collateral damage to non RW'ers)

White nationalist, mouth-breathing, christofascist, CT-pushing QMAGAts dying off (via what is in essence suicide borne of hate and rank stupidity) is a great thing for the entire planet.

[secondwind]

3. Hear, hear!

[Kid Berwyn]

4. Voters? Pukes don't need no stinking voters!

They got a new way of deciding elections. They only count the votes they want to count.

[hibbing]

14. +1

[Champp]

5. Stupid, sad, evil, or all three

Republicans are swallowing the bullshit (just like they did with their Casino Hustling Liar) and doing this to themselves. Colossally idiotic.

[John Ludi]

6. Since they're

generally the same people who think climate change is a hoax and think it's okay to trash the planet 'cause Jezus, I think this is probably a net positive for the planet, as stark a take on it as that sounds.

[Botany]

9. However these idiots are straining our health care system and now have made the virus ....

... as something that we will never get rid of as per Dr. Mike (Osterholm). However I'm
for no advanced medical care or hospital bed space for them. Build tent (wall tents) cities,
give 'em food & water, a cot, and all the pain killers they want. Do not run special O2 lines
or O2 tanks for them and if they live they live and if they die they die.

[John Ludi]

15. Pretty much

on the same page there. Screaming about how evil the health care system is and then begging that same health care system to save their lives is beyond galling.

[Botany]

22. Why don't we see this anymore? Science and vaccines.

[Duppers]

20. My thoughts too.

"a net positive for the planet..."

👍

[HAB911]

7. It's a Silver Lining

[JHB]

8. Think of it as the Great Self-Replacement

Naturally, they blame us for their own actions.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Good one! Wow, it's true, and hammers the point. . . . nt

[niyad]

10. Not nearly fast enough.

[Botany]

16. I wonder how many who went to the Trump "Bund Rally" in Cullman, Alabama last August ...

... have the disease?

I feel bad for the children who have become collateral damage but I'm done with these
stupid mother fuckers who read Russian produced or backed anti vaccine propaganda
on the internet or watch Fox because their stupidity have now made C-19 something
we will have to live with forever.

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[Texin]

11. Saw some graphs last week on this. Keep pluggin' GQP-ers!

At least that so-called party is good at one thing.

[BlueTsunami2018]

12. It's not enough to really make a significant difference.

They would have to be buying it in droves to really make a dent.

[C Moon]

13. That's why they are setting things up so they won't need voters.

[Baitball Blogger]

17. Which demands a rephrasing of the old saying:

When your opponent is digging his own grave, don't take away the shovel.

[FakeNoose]

18. Yes they are, but I still don't like that blue line either

The blue line is moving up too, over 3.5 months' time. And now we're heading into the cold-weather months where it won't be possible to stay outdoors so much. (The outdoor restaurants/shopping etc. won't be available to us once the cold weather hits.) That blue line will continue to climb showing more Covid deaths in the winter months.

Right now I'm hoping that the schools will administer Covid vaccine to all school-age children. That seems to be our only hope of getting through the winter.

[IronLionZion]

19. Yeah but they're owning the libs

somehow

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. And systematically blocking their voters from using mail-in ballots & other conveniences to vote. nt

[dawg]

25. Probably only 1-2% of them.

They figure, what with the gerrymandering and all, that it won't be enough to make a difference.

[getagrip_already]

26. Don't get smug - this is misleading....

These charts are "rates" of death, not numerical deaths. Since the vast majority of population lives in areas with large biden vote shares, we bear the bulk of numerical deaths.

If you don't believe me, look up state total numerical deaths. The bulk will be in blue states.

Death rates tell only a small part of the story.

[Botany]

27. fyi

[getagrip_already]

31. I'm not going to watch tik-tok shock vids, but......

If you are saying that you have less chance of dying if vax'd, and more dem's are vaxed, therefore..... whatever.

You aren't looking at where the actual deaths are occurring and who is dying. African Americans are uniquely resistant to getting vaxed. Yet many of them are dems. And they are dying at a much higher rate than whites.

All I'm saying is you can't reduce this to a simple graph based on death rates. You have to look at the populations and total deaths.

I'm not convinced more republicans are dying numerically. Registered Republicans are only 20%-25% of the electorate. And the states they are concentrated in have low overall populations. uch as I'd love it to be true, I'm not convinced.

As

[Botany]

34. Watch it ... it is based 100% on the math and statistics

Trust me it is worth it.

[PortTack]

38. This "shock" video as you call it was aired on MSNBC. She has a degree in statistics

Her father passed of covid pre vaccine

So put it all down if it makes you feel better. Statistics DON’T lie!!

[getagrip_already]

50. I tried watching it...

I couldn't listen tio he for more than 30 seconds. I'm not saying she was wrong, just grating.

Point me to a peer reviewed paper. I'll be happy to read it.

[PortTack]

28. Neil deGrassey Tyson: 8,000 more gqp than Dems die every 2 weeks..that is significant

[getagrip_already]

30. sounds like wishful statistics.....

Does neil have voter lists he uses to filter the names of the dead?

Otherwise, I'm not sure how he can make that assumption. Yes, unvaxed are far more likely to die than vaxed. And white republicans are more likely to be unvaxed than white dems. But there are other populations of unvaxed, for various reasons. And they live everywhere.

Don't know how he ran his numbers, but just location doesn't tell the whole story. And I doubt it's easy to estimate party affiliation from covid reporting data.

As much as I'd like to believe it, just looking at rate of death doesn't say a lot. You have to look at daily death numerical numbers and filter the hell out of it to get a sense for which party is being hit harder.

And frankly, I don't care. I want the number to be zero. There are others that don't though. and they are republican.

[PortTack]

35. He a scientist ..he never jokes or makes up numbers! Here's the breakdown..simple enough

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[getagrip_already]

37. yeah, that's what I thought.....

He is trying to split atoms with a baseball bat. That is a form of math, but it isn't science.

It's not even statistically accurate to any degree that would be acceptable in a peer reviewed study.

Sorry, doesn't seem to do more than guess. I like the outcome, just not the means.

[PortTack]

39. So you have a degree in astrophysics and want to put down a renowned scientist that

Studied ar Princeton, Harvard and UT. Is director of the Hayden planetarium and has received numerous awards including one from NASA for his work....

There is no astrophysics without math... again statistics don’t lie....GEEZ!

[getagrip_already]

49. no, but he isn't using his degrees here, he is just using math and guessing...

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Look, he admits he starts with polls. Polls are not data you can use for almost anything serious. He doesn';t use voting lists to filter the data. He doesn't screen out non-voters (under 18, immigrants, or just non-voters). He doesn't account for where the deaths are occurring...

That last one is important. For example, MA is a largely dem state, yet most of our deaths are among unvaxed people coming from largely urban areas. Those urban areas are even more heavily dem than the burbs or rural areas. Yet we also have a high population of immigrants. Haitians, hispanics, africans. Groups that are highly resistant to vax. But these aren't gop voters.

He is doing feel good math. I don't care what his qualifications are, his methodology is a hack.

But maybe I''m being unfair. Point me to his peer reviewed paper and i'll happily read it. Twitter is not science.

[cadoman]

47. wouldn't more gqp die than Dems normally though, due to the age skew?

GQP skews older, so we could expect them to die more frequently, right?

To understand the significance of Tyson's number, we need the pre-COVID baseline.

[PortTack]

41. FL, TX, MS, make up 30+% of hospitalizations and deaths. Look at the maps of the most severe

Outbreaks. Blue areas, the NE, CA where vaccination rates are high, they have very low death rates. It isn’t blue states where hospitals are now in or close to crisis mode. Ppl are dying there. Yes, some are transferred out to blue states that have hospital beds to treat. Those aren’t Biden voters!!

[LeftInTX]

32. Only .0015% of voters

Not enough to influence an election.

A congressional seat has about 800,000 voters. That is a loss of about 15 voters in one congressional district. This is not going to make an impact.

[PortTack]

40. The presidential election of 2020 was determined by 70,000 due to the EC

If they don’t die, 30-40% are sick with long covid. voting isn’t going to be high on their priority list when it takes every ounce of strength just to catch your breath while sitting up.

[LeftInTX]

42. Well, if Texas elects a Democrat for governor, then I will be thrilled

Meanwhile, we can't even get anyone decent to run, so there's that.

[LeftInTX]

44. Texas gained almost 2 million Hispanics between 2010 and 2020

It did not make a dent.

OTOH Texas has had 65,858 Covid deaths. Most are in blue areas:
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Although Neil is a physicist and has the training to analyze this, gaining 2 million Hispanics did not get us anything and he apparently did not analyze where voters are dying in Texas. Even if the Covid death rate is sky high in BTW I have a degree in math.

BTW: The reddest counties in Texas which apparently have the highest Covid death rates all have populations under 6,000 and the here are the actual deaths numbers, not rates:

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People of color make up 95% of Texas’ population growth, and cities and suburbs are booming, 2020 census shows
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/12/texas-2020-census/

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[TeamProg]

33. The deaths in Red Districts is simply collateral damage of the GOP's short-term gains, political

or economically. That's it. Most all of the GOP's damage to the USA is due to short-term profit and/or political advantage.

[madville]

43. Let me interrupt the grave dancing for a moment

In the South many of the red Trump counties have large Black populations, like 20-40%. So a significant portion of this statistic could be Black Democrats falling victim to COVID in those counties. Plus we know that Black people are more vulnerable to COVID, mainly due to their higher rates of obesity, heart disease and diabetes.

It's likely a wash in the end, how many Republicans vs. Democrats die in those counties.

[dalton99a]

45. Not fast enough

[roamer65]

48. U got that one right.

[joetheman]

46. SHhhhh.... nt