Why has the DOJ & PBO done nothing to stop TAINTED Voting Machines from being used?

[sellitman]

Where is Holder?

Is the fix in already?

Is this election already in the books?

Fuck, what the hell is going on in this Country?

HOW MANY ELECTIONS MUST WE ENDURE THAT ARE TAINTED BY GOP CONTROLLED MACHINES?

Is this a Country's politics just a huge charade?

[Flashmann]

1. I'd like to imagine

The strategy is to give them the rope to hang themselves REALLY good.....

[sellitman]

5. Times running out if that is their plan

What are they waiting for?

[bvar22]

22. Sorry, man... but I had to laugh.

I know you have only been here for a little while,
but that very same rationalization for inaction has persisted at DU since 2001.

...that one (giving them enough rope), and they are just "keeping their powder dry".
After 11 years, the Democratic Party has plenty of rope and dry powder.
There must be another reason for the silence and inaction.




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[Flashmann]

23. Oh that's quite alright

But I did say,"I'd like to imagine"...I'd LIKE to IMAGINE......

[Teamster Jeff]

2. ...

[Esse Quam Videri]

3. How can anyone in Ohio believe their vote is being counted correctly?

I need to inquire as to what kind of machines we use in Republican controlled Douglas county. Luckily even if they are the Hart machines we are voting by paper mail in ballot. So there would actually be a piece of paper to look at in the event of a recount.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/10/20/romney-family-investment-ties-to-voting-machine-company-that-could-decide-the-election-causes-concern/

[Voice for Peace]

4. it's hard to believe the DOJ wouldn't be aware of these machines

and it's equally hard for me to believe they wouldn't do anything,
so I am really stumped.

[brooklynite]

6. How about...nobody claims the machines are tainted...

...seriously. Show me a candidate or Party official who claims that they lost an election because of rigged voting machines. And explain how those same voting machines let us win in 2006 and 2008.

[sellitman]

9. Seriously

You don't think the machines haven't lost us elections?

[brooklynite]

12. Seriously, no.

First because, again, the advocates of this opinion never explain how we won races in Republican leaning districts with the same machines, second, because the size of the conspiracy you would need to carry it out (Republican Party officials, Business owners, engineers, programmers, statisticians, etc.) is so massively large you could never keep it secret, and third, because Republicans keep trying to steel elections the old-fashined way.

[Scuba]

13. They aren't trying to keep it secret, or any of their other evil. That's what scares me.

[sellitman]

16. It's no secret

That's what is so surprising.

[1-Old-Man]

7. Holder has been AWOL since the day he took the job

Easily the most worthless Attorney General since John Ashcroft.

[INdemo]

8. If they steal it I think the protests will make the 60's look like a

church social.

[sellitman]

10. Where were those protests before

Florida? Ohio?

Did I miss something ?

Were we too busy watching Idol?

[INdemo]

17. I wondered that myself..but I would think voters would assume this time its because

the corporate mafia bought it..

[byeya]

20. Gore/Lieberman couldn't wait to concede. Fighting the election theft in Florida was not on their

agenda.
When the election gets stolen again, will Obama be any different? Maybe, but I've seen no signs in the past four years that he's much of a fighter.

[wiggs]

11. Huge, important, and unanswered question. Dems, and Conyers in particular, were very

concerned about vote integrity up until 2006 when voted into power. Since then....zip.

[krispos42]

14. I think you mean "BAINTED" voting machines... n/t

[duhneece]

15. How many states, like NM, demanded voter-verified auditable ballots?

And how many still rely on 'black box' voting with no auditable trail?

[marions ghost]

19. GO TO THIS WEBSITE:

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/
--map of states showing the crazy patchwork of voting equipment

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http://verifiedvoting.org/

Halfway down the page see-- "Voting Information 2012." Here's the type of info that is there:

• In 11 states, paperless voting accounts for most or all Election Day ballots. Six states have paperless e-voting statewide: DE, GA, LA, MD, NJ, and SC. In five states, paperless voting counts for a heavy majority of votes: IN, PA, TX, TN, and VA. In KS, we estimate that at least 40% of the vote is paperless.

• In 32 states, voter-marked paper ballots counted by ballot scanners will account for most or all votes. 19 states will use voter-marked paper ballots statewide. In 13 states and DC, optical scan voting will account for the majority of ballots: AK, AZ, CA, CO, FL, IL, HI, KY, MO, NC, WA, WI, and WY.

• 33 states plus DC now provide a voter-verifiable paper record (VVPR) for every vote cast. A VVPR may be a paper ballot, or it may be a printout that the voter can view before she casts her ballot on a DRE voting machine.

• 40 states have moved toward requiring voter-verified paper records (VVPR), either through legislation or administrative decision. 6 states will not fully implement their VVPR requirements until some time after the 2012 election: AR, CO, FL, MD, NJ, and VA.

• 4 states are now mostly or entirely paperless but have enacted laws to end the use of direct-recording electronic voting machines, or fund their replacement: MD, NJ, TN, and VA. Maryland's and Virginia's statutes require a transition to optically scanned paper ballots. NJ's statute allows printer retrofits. Tennessee repealed a required transition to paper ballots in 2011, but current law requires the state to provide counties with funds to replace DREs with optical scan equipment and ballot marking devices for voters with disabilities.

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EXCELLENT ARTICLE FROM HUFFPO HERE:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/voting-machine-report-paper-ballots_n_1702357.html

"Voting Machine Report: States Ranked Based On Use Of Paper Ballots"

[duhneece]

30. Thank you, thank you,

I have no internet at home, rely on friends, library or senior center and I'd been unable to find this info. I really appreciate it.

[sellitman]

25. And how long do they actually keep the papertrail?

Wasn't Ohio's thrown out before anyone had a check available?

[slackmaster]

21. Obviously the President and his DoJ are in on the whole thing

[sellitman]

24. Instead of making fun at my post...

You could attempt giving us your so very valued opinion.

[slackmaster]

27. My honest opinion is that our President and his DoJ would do something about it...

...if there was a credible body of evidence that it was a real problem.

[sellitman]

29. There is enough circumstantial evidence of malfeasance that I am suspicious.

Wish you were right but I find the latest voting machine buy too bizarre to pass on.

Tagg owning the very machines who will verify his fathers future smells to high heaven.

[JackN415]

26. I sincerely hope they know a lot more than we do, such as built-in security and anti-tampering

[RepublicansRZombies]

28. What are we going to do this time is the question?

Are we really going to let the media steal this for the 1%?

[librechik]

31. they don't want to look like sore losers?

it has to be a nonpartisan approach, and during election while running for office is not the time for Obama.

Where is Al Gore? Where is John Kerry? They're the ones who lost the most and they aren't running for office right now. They or someone with their stature (I'm looking at you, Michael Moore) need to be working on this.