Several killed in Norway by bow and arrow. breaking

[Demovictory9]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/man-kills-several-people-norway-bow-arrow-attacks-police-say-2021-10-13/


“The man has been apprehended … from the information we now have, this person carried out these actions alone,” the police chief, Øyvind Aas, told reporters. “Several people have been injured and several are dead.”

He declined to comment on the number of casualties, but said there were “several crime scenes”.


Local media reported a large emergency response operation in the city, involving armed police, two helicopters and more than 10 ambulances.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/13/several-killed-bow-and-arrow-attack-norway

[Paladin]

1. Ugly way to die. (nt)

[Demovictory9]

4. They showed picture of arrow stuck in wall

[Demovictory9]

2. Update..at least 4 dead. Cop shot in back with arrow

[rockfordfile]

3. Damn

[maxsolomon]

5. "See? I told you, they'll just use another method if they don't have a gun."

And other specious rationalizations incoming in 3... 2... 1...

[Bev54]

6. Yes but consider this is the worst in the last 10 years in Norway

That many killed in the US is just another Wednesday.

[maxsolomon]

9. Oh, I've considered.

1. Psychopathy is universal - any country, any culture. 99% men.
2. Semi-automatic firearms facilitate mass murder more than any other weapon.
3. The ratio of guns/capita to shootings is (close to) fixed; increase the number of guns, the shootings go up.

[Straw Man]

11. But go back 10 years and a few months in Norway ...

... and you get Anders Brevik, who killed eight people with a bomb and 69 with a rifle in a single rampage in the summer of 2011, a death toll higher than any single mass shooting in the United States. As a percentage of the population, that's equivalent to 5,000 people in the US being killed in one incident.

[Bev54]

12. I would not try to compare the US to any other country

when it comes to gun deaths and mass shootings. There is no other western country that even compares. One very very bad incident against young people was horrible but does not make them like the US.

[Straw Man]

13. Any other DEVELOPED country, you mean.

Or "western," if you prefer. The fact is that the US isn't even in the Top 10 worldwide in murder rates. In fact, in 2020 it was 88th out fo 230 nations and city-states. Murder is murder, regardless of the instrument of death, and human lives in the developing world are as precious as human lives in the developed world.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/murder-rates-by-country.html

No, I wouldn't try to compare Norway and the US in the rate of violent death, but to talk about Norway and not mention Anders Brevik is to leave a particular nasty cherry on the tree, isn't it?

[Bev54]

14. Yes I used the term western country

The Brevik murders were implicated in the posts, that is why I said 10 years and no it was not leaving any fruit on the tree. I was simply pointing out one particular terrible mass murder does not put them in the same category and should not be used to try and compare them.

[Straw Man]

15. The Brevik murders were nowhere to be found in your post, even implicitly.

In fact, your 10-year window specifically excludes them, by just a few months. I would call that cherry-picking, but I'm cranky like that.

[Iggo]

7. These stories are red meat for gunfuckers.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. Agree

[albacore]

10. Just a couple of things from Reality-Land...

In reality-land, people in the US kill each other at a far, FAR higher rate than in Norway... and all the developed countries like us.
The murder rate in Norway...from all causes... is .5 per 100,000 inhabitants....half a murder for every 100,000.
The murder rate in the US... from all causes ...is 6.5 per 100,000. 4.4 of that number per 100,000 are by firearms.
I keep saying, the problem is either guns... or it's US. Either the guns make us more efficiently violent, or we are somehow more violent than people like us in countries like ours.
Either way....it looks like we can't be trusted with firearms.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm?fbclid=IwAR1X-xqg_eU6rlBzHkibKF0orXOj7bJr_HRlQM124GxMuaO17-Fa8Yhdcdo

[malaise]

16. Was an attack by a Danish man in a supermarket

Wow!