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PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 01:34 PM Oct 2021

J6 Committee will move forward w/ proceeding to refer Bannon for criminal contempt



BREAKING: Chairman @BennieGThompson announces the Select Committee will move forward with proceedings to refer Mr. Bannon for criminal contempt. Read the full statement: https://january6th.house.gov/news/press-releases/thompson-statement-cooperation-witnesses


Thompson Statement on Cooperation of Witnesses -> https://january6th.house.gov/news/press-releases/thompson-statement-cooperation-witnesses

(from link)

Bolton, MS—Chairman Bennie G. Thompson today made the following statement:

“Mr. Bannon has declined to cooperate with the Select Committee and is instead hiding behind the former President’s insufficient, blanket, and vague statements regarding privileges he has purported to invoke. We reject his position entirely. The Select Committee will not tolerate defiance of our subpoenas, so we must move forward with proceedings to refer Mr. Bannon for criminal contempt. I’ve notified the Select Committee that we will convene for a business meeting Tuesday evening to vote on adopting a contempt report.

“The Select Committee will use every tool at its disposal to get the information it seeks, and witnesses who try to stonewall the Select Committee will not succeed. All witnesses are required to provide the information they possess so the Committee can get to the facts. We’re grateful to the many individuals who are voluntarily participating and to witnesses who are complying with subpoenas, including several who met the deadline to begin producing materials to the Select Committee. We’re moving ahead quickly to get answers for the American people about what happened on January 6th and help secure the future of American democracy.”


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J6 Committee will move forward w/ proceeding to refer Bannon for criminal contempt (Original Post) PunkinPi Oct 2021 OP
Will it happen? BlueJac Oct 2021 #1
Once the grand jury convened, about an hour. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #15
Delaying? Scarlet Begalas Oct 2021 #30
This is the due process they have to take to throw him in jail. 2Gingersnaps Oct 2021 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #43
What About Inherent Contempt? SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #2
YES zebrapa Oct 2021 #13
That's What I Figured SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #24
And you know that how? Kingofalldems Oct 2021 #50
I Only Know What I've Heard Others Say SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #51
Schiff knows the law! True Blue American Oct 2021 #37
Congress's Contempt Power and Enforcement of... PDF Report here: Justice matters. Oct 2021 #25
Immediately zebrapa Oct 2021 #41
Agreed. Justice matters. Oct 2021 #42
Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #3
X1000. n/t mtngirl47 Oct 2021 #4
As long as this disgusting person is perp-walked across our screens I'm all for it. iscooterliberally Oct 2021 #5
you mean perp-stumble don't you sdfernando Oct 2021 #6
I'm sure when he passes away and they cremate his remains, it will take weeks to put the fire out. iscooterliberally Oct 2021 #27
Him and Ghouliani both! ShazzieB Oct 2021 #34
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #7
Yes but they are providing more time to Meadows and Patel and Scavino Bev54 Oct 2021 #8
Patel in particular, 2Gingersnaps Oct 2021 #38
Bring down the Hammers of Justice on all Republican traitors Champp Oct 2021 #9
This is beginning get that Watergate era pace and feel to it bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #10
yes but back then we were not on the verge of a breakdown of democracy. drray23 Oct 2021 #14
The GQP has totally lost its political legitimacy bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #21
THIS malaise Oct 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #44
You would think they would have been prepared. drray23 Oct 2021 #11
What choice does the committee have but to follow the legally mandated procedure? Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #17
sure but swiftly is better drray23 Oct 2021 #19
Criminal contempt of court moves swiftly. Think same will happen with criminal Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #45
What minefield? I'd really like to know. scipan Oct 2021 #49
Great news. Kingofalldems Oct 2021 #12
What a difference having a Biden appointed AG and US attorney make. No roadblocks. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #16
I will love it when it actually happens. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #18
Love it now. Love it later, but the later comes after the needed now. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #20
Hasn't happened yet. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #29
I've Looked Like A Fool Far Too Many Times SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #52
I agree. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #53
He is one nasty piece of work Botany Oct 2021 #26
Failed hollywood career... johnnyfins Oct 2021 #33
No one told Trump... Septua Oct 2021 #28
He thinks he has lifetime immunity from being pardoned budkin Oct 2021 #31
I don't expect desperate DC Jail lice to homestead in Mr. Bannon's crotch. After all, NCjack Oct 2021 #32
GOOD orangecrush Oct 2021 #36
Now, Trump has been ordered to True Blue American Oct 2021 #39
Throw the vial seedy son of a bitch in prison Hulk Oct 2021 #40
Georgetown & Harvard and then onto work for the Mercers with Cambridge Analyitca to rat .... Botany Oct 2021 #46
👍 Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #47
Kick this for Trump's secret pals now trying to move the goalposts. Kingofalldems Oct 2021 #48
Rt TY, Pi! Cha Oct 2021 #54

Scarlet Begalas

(25 posts)
30. Delaying?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:11 PM
Oct 2021

I hope I'm wrong, but this feels like another delaying tactic to me, to avoid throwing him in jail.

Response to 2Gingersnaps (Reply #35)

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
2. What About Inherent Contempt?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 01:40 PM
Oct 2021

Can someone explain the difference between what they're doing, and Inherent Contempt?

Is it simply that this way, it's the Department Of Justice that will hold them in Contempt, rather than Congress?

Is there any difference in the consequences, or the process, and what will come of it in the short to medium term?

zebrapa

(112 posts)
13. YES
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:27 PM
Oct 2021

Criminal contempt via the justice department can get stonewalled in the courts for a year or two. Inherent contempt ...
Bannon is marched of to the DC capitol jail immediatly and stays there until he complies.

The select committee can do BOTH of those things and they should.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
24. That's What I Figured
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:40 PM
Oct 2021

So the route they're taking now, that all the optimists at DU seem to be overjoyed about, will go nowhere.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
51. I Only Know What I've Heard Others Say
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:03 PM
Oct 2021

This is purely my opinion and speculation.

I've heard that if charges come out of the DOJ, they will be tied up in court for months, if not years. At the very least nothing will happen until well into 2022, if at all.

EVERYTHING involving TFG or his cronies seems to go nowhere. I simply don't see why this will be any different.

Trust me, I hope very much to be proven wrong.`

Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
25. Congress's Contempt Power and Enforcement of... PDF Report here:
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:41 PM
Oct 2021
Congress’s Contempt Power and the Enforcement of Congressional Subpoenas: Law, History, Practice, and Procedure

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL34097

IF Garland's (We The People's) DOJ refuses to convene the Grand Jury the committee should issue Inherent Contempt right away.

Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
42. Agreed.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:52 PM
Oct 2021


Bannon to Appear Before Congress on 10/14. When he doesn't show, Congress Should Use Contempt x 2

Steve Bannon has indicated that he intends to defy the congressional subpoena directing him to appear for testimony on October 14. Members of Congress have said they "will" refer him to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution. That is an import step toward accountability for his crime of contempt of congress. BUT - Congress should also use its inherent power of contempt to compel Bannon's testimony in real time.

This video explores the novel concept of Congress using a legal "belt-and-suspenders" approach to enforcing its subpoenas: both referring Bannon for prosecution to punish him for his crime AND simultaneously using its inherent power of contempt to obtain the testimony the select committee needs to make progress in its investigation into the insurrection.

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
5. As long as this disgusting person is perp-walked across our screens I'm all for it.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:08 PM
Oct 2021

My condolences to anyone who has to touch him in the process though. Yuck!

Response to PunkinPi (Original post)

Bev54

(10,052 posts)
8. Yes but they are providing more time to Meadows and Patel and Scavino
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:21 PM
Oct 2021

I really do not want them to get sucked into this "pretend" cooperation that these assholes are so famous for. Just get them before the committee now or send them for referral as well.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
38. Patel in particular,
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:40 PM
Oct 2021

there is a reason TFG put him in the DoD after he fired Esper. Ever since he worked for Nunes he has been a waterboy bag o corruption.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
10. This is beginning get that Watergate era pace and feel to it
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:21 PM
Oct 2021

Things just march on, inexorably, slowly, in one direction. They move.

drray23

(7,631 posts)
14. yes but back then we were not on the verge of a breakdown of democracy.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:28 PM
Oct 2021

So even thought it took two years to get from investigation to Nixon resigning, it happened because members of Nixon's own party were willing to hold him accountable.

In the current climate I am afraid that if we don't proceed swiftly it will go nowhere especially if the gop gets back in power. They will squash that.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
21. The GQP has totally lost its political legitimacy
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:34 PM
Oct 2021

Legitimacy is undefinable in American politics. But voters know it when they feel it. En masse.

Response to drray23 (Reply #14)

drray23

(7,631 posts)
11. You would think they would have been prepared.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:24 PM
Oct 2021

Now they have to meet next Tuesday just to approve the report to send to DOJ. Likely it will sit there for days before a prosecutor takes it and then more days to be in front of a judge...

Who knows what will happen between now and then. I wish they would go ahead and just use inherent contempt. I wonder why they decided it was better to do it via a referral to justice. Is it because they are not sure inherent contempt is feasible or what ?

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
17. What choice does the committee have but to follow the legally mandated procedure?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:32 PM
Oct 2021

No need for mine field filled inherent contempt when you can do criminal contempt.

drray23

(7,631 posts)
19. sure but swiftly is better
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:33 PM
Oct 2021

Messaging is hugely important. Sending that referral this evening to DOJ instead of next Tuesday would have been a powerful statement.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
22. Criminal contempt of court moves swiftly. Think same will happen with criminal
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:36 PM
Oct 2021

contempt of court.

Just need to get to indictment stage for the dominos to fall.

Response to drray23 (Reply #19)

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
16. What a difference having a Biden appointed AG and US attorney make. No roadblocks.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:30 PM
Oct 2021

Shed no tears for the very wrong.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
29. Hasn't happened yet.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:06 PM
Oct 2021

I have learned to wait to be excited. When it happens, I’ll be the first one dancing in the streets.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
52. I've Looked Like A Fool Far Too Many Times
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:07 PM
Oct 2021

Telling people I know about how this or that is going to happen, only to see Nothing happen.

I honestly have little faith in our justice system, at least where "special" individuals are concerned.

It's going to take Inherent Contempt, no less, otherwise I see this being fought about in courts for months at the very least.

JMO.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
53. I agree.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 08:08 PM
Oct 2021

IMO the Dems should have already had a plan in place. Bannon and company are daring them to do something.

If something IS done, I will happily admit that I was wrong and be happier than a clam. But I’ve seen this story unfold too many times over the last five years.

I’m tired of not seeing these criminals in jail.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
26. He is one nasty piece of work
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:46 PM
Oct 2021


His bluster and braggadocio will not play well with the US Marshalls.

johnnyfins

(823 posts)
33. Failed hollywood career...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:29 PM
Oct 2021

...so he gets his fame by helping to destroy a country. He's not a "piece of work" he's a piece of shit.

Septua

(2,256 posts)
28. No one told Trump...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:59 PM
Oct 2021

..he can't exercise executive privilege as a use-to-be-president. Point of fact, he never knew the limits of Executive Privilege in the first place. For him it was another just Presidential Power Perk to get his way.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
32. I don't expect desperate DC Jail lice to homestead in Mr. Bannon's crotch. After all,
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:21 PM
Oct 2021

they do have standards to uphold.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
40. Throw the vial seedy son of a bitch in prison
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:44 PM
Oct 2021

Treasonous piece of shit along behind bars for the rest of his ugly days

Botany

(70,508 posts)
46. Georgetown & Harvard and then onto work for the Mercers with Cambridge Analyitca to rat ....
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:20 PM
Oct 2021

.... fuck our elections.

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