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spanone

(135,854 posts)
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:21 AM Oct 2021

CNN: How trump can sink Democrats request for Jan. 6 documents

WTF?

(CNN)The next few weeks will be pivotal if former President Donald Trump is hoping to bury the House's request for January 6 documents in years of litigation.

With a lawsuit filed Monday, Trump began in earnest his legal war against the House's Capitol insurrection investigation. He is seeking to block the National Archives from releasing the documents to the House select committee investigating the attack.

According to the court filings, Trump has less than a month to get an initial court order blocking the release of the records. The National Archives told Trump last week that it intended to turn over the documents on November 12, as President Joe Biden had declined to assert executive privilege over them.

Trump's efforts to act quickly now to stop the release could ultimately turn into larger strategy to run down the clock, legal experts told CNN. With Democrats in danger of losing control of Congress in next year's midterms, if Trump can drag out the litigation long enough, it could be enough to sink their request for the documents, regardless of how the legal questions are ultimately settled.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/20/politics/trump-national-archives-lawsuit-strategy/index.html
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CNN: How trump can sink Democrats request for Jan. 6 documents (Original Post) spanone Oct 2021 OP
He's hoping to drag it out until he dies of old age Walleye Oct 2021 #1
The key to understanding this "sink" ... FBaggins Oct 2021 #2
I think alot of people are jumping the gun PRETZEL Oct 2021 #3
The select committee can be delayed, gab13by13 Oct 2021 #4
What gave you the notion that a grand jury can't be stalled? FBaggins Oct 2021 #9
There they go again, suckling on the GOP's shriveled ballsack Blue Owl Oct 2021 #5
Yeah Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #12
Beat me to it! Saw part of that worthless CNN story...now here's another PortTack Oct 2021 #13
All I need to know about how CNN and MSNBC is setting the table for another Trump Presidency msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #14
It shouldn't be legal Karma13612 Oct 2021 #6
I'm sorry but . . . Lovie777 Oct 2021 #7
They want trump back maryellen99 Oct 2021 #8
Fuck CNN. They're almost as bad as FOX and I don't care for their propaganda n/t. Greybnk48 Oct 2021 #10
Fuck CNN and Fuck the Slobfather malaise Oct 2021 #11
Lol.. is CNN reporting or advising? (n/t) Patton French Oct 2021 #15

FBaggins

(26,753 posts)
2. The key to understanding this "sink" ...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:44 AM
Oct 2021

... is to recognize that he doesn't need to win in court in order to win overall IF he can just delay the process long enough.

Just like Biden said (essentially) "no... but hold off on releasing the documents for now to give him a chance to appeal" - other courts could easily reject his legal arguments, but still keep the release on hold while he appeals that decision.

Since there's no reason to accelerate the process (other than the obvious), the process could very well take past the next election. And even if it doesn't, a six month delay harms the progress of the committee.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
3. I think alot of people are jumping the gun
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:47 AM
Oct 2021

on Trump being single handedly being able to derail the investigation.

Remember, the committee has at least 15 subpoenas outstanding, most of which right now are centered around the organizers and funders. This is really following the money.

I'm only guessing, but since literally no one would be able to make any types of privilege claims, the best they would be able to do is plead the 5th. The optics of that within the general public would be pretty telling.

Politics are really time sensitive. What may seem like something that may not look like the committee is really doing a great deal, they are, and they're going at a pretty good pace.

Who knows what we'll know in a year from now. Even Trump's stonewalling won't be able to hide all the information that may be available. The lights that can be shining a year from now could be even brighter and could force many Republicans to either disavow the stances they're holding now or risk losing.

gab13by13

(21,375 posts)
4. The select committee can be delayed,
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:03 AM
Oct 2021

this is why I have been begging for DOJ to get involved, a person can't stall being called before a grand jury. It is going to be up to Marrick Garland, to DOJ, to save our democracy.

FBaggins

(26,753 posts)
9. What gave you the notion that a grand jury can't be stalled?
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:37 AM
Oct 2021

Witnesses attempt to quash grand jury subpoenas all the time.

Mad_Machine76

(24,417 posts)
12. Yeah
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:46 AM
Oct 2021

There was a Smerconish "story" last week about "How Trump Can Beat Biden in 2024". Are they just trying to lay a f***ing road map out for him?!!!! How about some "How Biden Can Get BBB Passed" or something but nope. Not CNN. They seem to want Trump back.

PortTack

(32,783 posts)
13. Beat me to it! Saw part of that worthless CNN story...now here's another
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:59 AM
Oct 2021

I REFUSE to listen to their f..king worthless commentary

msfiddlestix

(7,284 posts)
14. All I need to know about how CNN and MSNBC is setting the table for another Trump Presidency
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 12:50 PM
Oct 2021

without having to pay the overpriced cable bill to be aware of what they're up to by reading about it on DU.

So I thank you for your sacrifice, and I agree with your assessment on the motives of CNN/MSNBC

I dropped my on line subscription with Sling in order to get MSNBC right after Jan 6th. I'm wondering if a lot of other folks did the same thing and cable news is desperate to regain all the lost viewers once Biden took office? It sure seems like that's what this is all about.

That plus they don't want to pay more taxes I guess.

Karma13612

(4,553 posts)
6. It shouldn't be legal
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:26 AM
Oct 2021

To simply suppress documents when these are Congressional and legal investigations.

So sick of all the legal challenge gamesmenship going on.

Seems like justice is no longer served, in many scenarios in this country.

The only swift justice (and often injustice) we see is on the minority, and vulnerable people in this country. Children in handcuffs???????? What is this????? Where are we living?????

Trump can snap his fingers and bury information that would otherwise hold him accountable for illegal and corrupt purposes. You wonder why people tune out and just take care of ‘me and thee’. It’s all you have when the powerful can simply bury, obfuscate, lie, corrupt and walk away scott free.

Hurry up on the full House vote to hold Stevie in contempt. Maybe then I can experience at least one small moment of relief. And feel a sense of balance return.

The sun is out, but it’s a bit cold here in NY-21. Time to take the camera out and go for a walk. Hopefully I can find in nature what I can’t in our justice system.

Lovie777

(12,300 posts)
7. I'm sorry but . . .
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:27 AM
Oct 2021

CNN recently have been pulling for shithole, republicans and the destruction of democracy. That's the way I feel and I refuse to watch them anymore.

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