hang in there, Progressives...

[myohmy2]

...we're either all in this together or we're not...

...we either all come out ahead or no one comes out ahead...

...it's two conservative Dems hanging this thing up...

...our fate is in our hands...

...being chumped is not an option...

...hang in there...

[Walleye]

1. Get on those two so-called conservative Democrats, and just wear them down

Our people should follow them around and nag them every chance they get. Make them repeatedly support their positions. Don’t need to bring up their conflicts of interest, we know about that. Test their stamina and endurance on their. most corrupt positions

[betsuni]

2. The Democratic Party is progressive.

[lapucelle]

3. It was made known this week that one senator is still insisting on his number ($3.5 trillion)

rather than accepting President Joe Biden's number. Manchin's number is actually closer to President Biden's achievable goal than the other senator's.

https://www.axios.com/manchin-sanders-reconciliation-fight-789c8441-fa49-404f-9d36-4adaa8e1d908.html

If there's one senator still insisting on $1.5 trillion and another still insisting on $3.5 trillion, then both senators are responsible for the gridlock and both need to stop standing in the way progress.

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Biden Tells Democrats Spending Package Will Be Slashed to Roughly $2 Trillion

President Joe Biden went to Capitol Hill on Friday [October 1] to try to press pause on days of fighting among Democrats as he tried to save two key bills. Biden made clear the promised vote on the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill would not happen after all, even as he warned progressives they would have to get used to the idea that the spending package on climate change and social policies would have to be slashed by around half. There doesn’t seem to be an obvious path to passage but Biden also urged patience, telling they lawmakers could take their time if needed. “We’re going to get this done,” Biden told reporters. “It doesn’t matter when. It doesn’t, whether it’s in six minutes, six days or six weeks—we’re going to get it done.” For now though it’s “just reality” that the two bills are tied to each other and one can’t pass without the other, he said.

While speaking to lawmakers in what was his first-ever meeting with the full House Democratic caucus since becoming president, Biden said the price tag of the social spending bill would have to come down from $2.5 trillion to somewhere between $1.9 trillion and $2.3 trillion. Biden tried to quell anger of progressives by insisting that even at that price tag it would still involve “historic investments” on key issues.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/10/biden-democrats-social-spending-package-slash-congress.html

[luv2fly]

4. That "one Senator" you speak of...

... is likely MUCH closer to President Biden's vision and number than Manchin is and the President knows it.

And it all started at 6 trillion, despite everyone talking like 3.5 is some magic number.

Numbers mean very little, services and programs mean everything.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT FOR THE AMERICAN WORKER MR. "ONE SENATOR."

[lapucelle]

5. Sorry, but according to math, $1.5 trillion is closer to $2.3 trillion than $3.5 trillion is.

President Biden has been quite explicit. He doesn't need others to explain what he "really meant".

Anyone standing in the way of passing President Biden's agenda is an obstacle. Anyone.