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Celerity

(43,383 posts)
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 02:46 AM Oct 2021

Dave Chappelle Addresses Netflix Controversy by Mocking Trans Community, Hannah Gadsby

https://www.thedailybeast.com/comedian-dave-chappelle-addresses-netflixs-the-closer-controversy-by-mocking-trans-community-hannah-gadsby

Dave Chappelle has responded to the storm of controversy surrounding his Netflix special The Closer in a 5-minute clip of a live set posted Monday to his Instagram. In it, the comedian, who’s currently in the middle of a national tour, directly addressed the transgender community, saying he would be “more than willing to give you an audience, but you will not summon me. I am not bending to anybody’s demands.” Over the audience’s cheers, he listed off “conditions” for such a meeting to take place, chuckling. “First of all, you cannot come if you have not watched my special from beginning to end. You must come to a place of my choosing, at a time of my choosing, and thirdly, you must admit that Hannah Gadsby is not funny.”

Chappelle also took the opportunity to complain “about corporate interests, and what I can say and what I cannot say” into a microphone, to uproarious applause. He said that, since the backlash, “not a film company, not a movie studio, not a film festival, nobody will touch” an upcoming documentary about his summer 2020 comedy tour. “Thank god for Ted Sarandos and Netflix,” the comedian added. He announced that he would instead be self-releasing the untitled film in 10 cities. “You can see what they’re trying to obstruct you from seeing,” Chappelle said. “And you can judge for yourself. But you cannot have this conversation, and exclude my voice from it. That is only fair.”




he can go fuck right off

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Dave Chappelle Addresses Netflix Controversy by Mocking Trans Community, Hannah Gadsby (Original Post) Celerity Oct 2021 OP
whatever Dave eShirl Oct 2021 #1
This idiot just wants to be cancelled now vercetti2021 Oct 2021 #2
He's not trying to be cancelled jcgoldie Oct 2021 #13
he knows what kind of people think he's funny and designs his act just for them nt msongs Oct 2021 #3
Since I laughed at Chappelle 15 years ago, am I that "kind"? maxsolomon Oct 2021 #17
The humor from that era.... BradAllison Oct 2021 #19
What an ass. n/t demmiblue Oct 2021 #4
He's my favorite comedian going back to about 1999 CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #5
I watched his latest netflix special. He always made a good point. dsp3000 Oct 2021 #6
His comments about trans people made zero good points. N/T FreeState Oct 2021 #9
We accept killing people point blank at walmart dsp3000 Oct 2021 #15
That's not a good point nor is it true FreeState Oct 2021 #22
I don't know one LGBTQA person who accepts this. Duncan Grant Oct 2021 #31
One thing? This is what "Da Baby" said about gay men... Behind the Aegis Oct 2021 #40
What kind of a point is that? Those two ideas aren't related at all. BlueStater Oct 2021 #42
He doesn't get it Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #7
I don't agree. He's an African American male. I think he gets discrimination Buckeyeblue Oct 2021 #11
Is your argument that society accepts LGBTQ people? Duncan Grant Oct 2021 #36
No. That's not my argument. Buckeyeblue Oct 2021 #41
"Violence" Azathoth Oct 2021 #26
Posting for visibility and information. Duncan Grant Oct 2021 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Politicub Oct 2021 #8
Chappelle is now a grandiose p*ick trying to take hostages. Duncan Grant Oct 2021 #10
I love ( used to love?) Dave Chappelle TheFarseer Oct 2021 #12
It seems like he has a bone to pick, if you listen to his story at the end of his special dsp3000 Oct 2021 #14
There are many black trans women who speak to this and DC. Duncan Grant Oct 2021 #28
I don't even know who Hannah Gadsby is. maxsolomon Oct 2021 #16
Most people don't n/m BradAllison Oct 2021 #18
Hannah Gadsby Goes Off on Netflix Head Ted Sarandos for Using Her to Defend Chappelle Celerity Oct 2021 #20
Hannah is a lesbian but she is more the face leftyladyfrommo Oct 2021 #23
what do you do, post a DC post each week just to tell him to fuck off? CatWoman Oct 2021 #21
What do you do, track Celerity threads? Duncan Grant Oct 2021 #25
i don't track anyone's threads CatWoman Oct 2021 #30
Observation, don't we all? (eom) Duncan Grant Oct 2021 #32
TO be fair BannonsLiver Oct 2021 #29
I own one residence, in Sweden. I never owned my residences in London or Los Angeles, my parents do. Celerity Oct 2021 #33
But its okay to trash our community? vercetti2021 Oct 2021 #35
Sad to see some still making excuses for his bigotry. Behind the Aegis Oct 2021 #24
Because they do not care for the trans community vercetti2021 Oct 2021 #27
There isn't much love for the gay and lesbian community either from these types. Behind the Aegis Oct 2021 #39
Seriously, just ignoring EarlG's OP obamanut2012 Oct 2021 #34
Same shit, different day. Duncan Grant Oct 2021 #38

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
2. This idiot just wants to be cancelled now
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 02:58 AM
Oct 2021

He's practically begging for it so he can say told you so. Dave just wanna say thank you for making our community a big goddamn target over the past month. I see transphobia all over the place now since your special. I didn't care for your words since I didn't let them effect me, but now you've opened a door for it to happen to us more now. So thanks a lot.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
13. He's not trying to be cancelled
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:08 PM
Oct 2021

He doesn't feel relevant so he's trying to take advantage of the controversy to get attention. Its Howard Stern shock-jock schtick the difference is he's decided to trash an entire marginalized community of people to get his headlines. Fuck Dave Chappelle.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
17. Since I laughed at Chappelle 15 years ago, am I that "kind"?
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:37 PM
Oct 2021

Chapelle's Show (2003 - 2005) was usually hilarious and provocative.

dsp3000

(484 posts)
6. I watched his latest netflix special. He always made a good point.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:47 AM
Oct 2021

He challenged his audience to self reflect about what we get outraged about. His example about Da Baby especially!

dsp3000

(484 posts)
15. We accept killing people point blank at walmart
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:49 PM
Oct 2021

But say one thing about lgbtq, get canceled. That's his point

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
40. One thing? This is what "Da Baby" said about gay men...
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 05:47 AM
Oct 2021
“If you didn’t show up today with HIV, AIDS any of them deadly sexually transmitted diseases that’ll make you die in two to three weeks, put your cellphone lighter up,” DaBaby, real name Jonathan Lyndale Kirk, yelled into his microphone. “Fellas, if you ain’t sucking dick in the parking lot, put your cellphone lighter up.” source

Imagine a GAY performer making overtly RACIST remarks. Think his ass wouldn't be "cancelled"?!

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
7. He doesn't get it
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:59 AM
Oct 2021

He doesn't get the hate and discrimination trans people get in our society, he doesn't get the violence that they face. And for some reason he continuously tries to compare that hate and violence to the hate and violence black people face in America.

He's playing victim when he's not a victim. Maybe meeting with some trans people can open his eyes some. For my wife's birthday this weekend, our dear trans friend Erica went to a sports bar / restaurant with us. There was a feeling of it being dangerous just her being in public. And she had to use the bathroom and got comments coming out of the ladies room. There were stares, there were under the breath comments. I was thinking, boy, am I going to have to fight someone if we get attacked. I don't think Dave Chappelle has ever experienced that in his life, but maybe I'm wrong, I haven't lived his life.

I also think that story in his show he told of befriending a trans person sounded too convenient. And it was similar to some racist saying, "but I have a black friend." Maybe that trans woman he knew is not representative of all trans people. Dave doesn't get it, but it doesn't mean people shouldn't engage him, maybe he'll eventually get it.

And no one is freaking canceling Dave Chappelle, he's not a victim in this. He's a filthy rich celebrity who's becoming more famous off the controversy.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
11. I don't agree. He's an African American male. I think he gets discrimination
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:02 PM
Oct 2021

His point is that we as a society accept racism. We accept it daily. But when someone says something insensitive about the LGTBQ community everyone is outraged and people overreact.

He is essentially saying let the penalty fit the crime.

He's a comedian. He makes his observations in extreme, outlandish and sometimes profane ways.

It's art.

Duncan Grant

(8,264 posts)
36. Is your argument that society accepts LGBTQ people?
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 10:13 PM
Oct 2021

What is this outrage and overreaction of which you speak?

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
41. No. That's not my argument.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 08:09 AM
Oct 2021

I don't think society accepts LGBTQ individuals. I think as a whole there is a lot of hate toward this group, with more acceptance among younger individuals.

Not that you asked, but I would give the same answer for our country's attitude toward African-Americans.

White straight people think the interests of these segments is being put ahead of their own.

Azathoth

(4,608 posts)
26. "Violence"
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:14 PM
Oct 2021

This seems to be a big talking point any time the trans issue comes up, and I have to say, I think the reason a lot of people don't "get" it is because no one has any clue what it's referring to.

I personally know at least two trans people. I know that at various points in their lives, both have experienced isolated episodes of bigotry. But I've never heard of either of them being attacked, much less coming close to death. I suspect the anecdotal experiences of others are closer to mine than yours in this regard.

Yet whenever the trans issue comes up, one side immediately tries to shut down everything with insinuations of mass violence, apparently bordering on genocide, directed at trans people. And that just doesn't line up with what many of us see and experience. We're aware of the problems of violence against black trans women, but frankly, that seems to be isolated to certain communities where longstanding religiosity and regressive social views are equally hostile to gay men. That's not to downplay the problem, only to suggest that I don't think JK Rowling or Dave Chappelle have much impact one way or the other.

Response to Celerity (Original post)

Duncan Grant

(8,264 posts)
10. Chappelle is now a grandiose p*ick trying to take hostages.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:55 PM
Oct 2021

“You must come to a place of my choosing, at a time of my choosing,…”

Fuck this guy. He thinks he’s the victim but he’s the drunk driver.

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
12. I love ( used to love?) Dave Chappelle
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:07 PM
Oct 2021

But this is weirdly obsessive and his comedy in this case was too preachy to be funny. The funny has to come first. That’s the rule.

dsp3000

(484 posts)
14. It seems like he has a bone to pick, if you listen to his story at the end of his special
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:48 PM
Oct 2021

About the trans person who stuck up for him and then got bullied then committed suicide

Duncan Grant

(8,264 posts)
28. There are many black trans women who speak to this and DC.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:19 PM
Oct 2021

The trans community is sharing about this on multiple platforms.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
16. I don't even know who Hannah Gadsby is.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:27 PM
Oct 2021

I think I'd better watch this special that everyone wants me to be super angry about.

Celerity

(43,383 posts)
20. Hannah Gadsby Goes Off on Netflix Head Ted Sarandos for Using Her to Defend Chappelle
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:51 PM
Oct 2021

‘FUCK YOU AND YOUR AMORAL ALGORITHM CULT’

“Hey Ted Sarandos! Just a quick note to let you know that I would prefer if you didn’t drag my name into your mess,” the comedian began. It only got more brutal from there.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hannah-gadsby-goes-off-on-netflix-head-ted-sarandos-for-using-her-to-defend-chappelle

Comedian Hannah Gadsby is not happy that Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos is citing her stand-up specials as evidence that the platform does not have a Dave Chappelle problem.

In a memo to his staff this week, Sarandos doubled down on his defense of Chappelle’s latest special The Closer following in-house protests from trans employees. “We are working hard to ensure marginalized communities aren’t defined by a single story. So we have ‘Sex Education,’ ‘Orange is the New Black,’ ‘Control Z,’ Hannah Gadsby and Dave Chappelle all on Netflix, he wrote. “Key to this is increasing diversity on the content team itself.”

“Hey Ted Sarandos! Just a quick note to let you know that I would prefer if you didn’t drag my name into your mess,” Gadsby shot back on Instagram late Thursday night. “Now I have to deal with even more of the hate and anger that Dave Chappelle’s fans like to unleash on me every time Dave gets 20 million dollars to process his emotionally stunted partial world view.”

“You didn’t pay me nearly enough to deal with the real world consequences of the hate speech dog whistling you refuse to acknowledge, Ted. Fuck you and your amoral algorithm cult…” the Australian comedian continued. “I do shits with more back bone than you. That’s just a joke! I definitely didn’t cross a line because you just told the world there isn’t one.”

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
23. Hannah is a lesbian but she is more the face
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:41 PM
Oct 2021

of a person on the autism spectrum.

Her interpretations of things are a little different. She doesn't have the same filters that other people have so sometimes her comments are outrageous.

But it's the stand up comedian's job to be outrageous.
They shouldn't be canceled for that.

Jim Jeffries is another rather outrageous comedian. He was addressing the over sensitivity issue. He was talking about his father and how people need to give others some time to adjust.

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
21. what do you do, post a DC post each week just to tell him to fuck off?
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 07:09 PM
Oct 2021

I don't like the way he throws the words "nigger" and "bitches" around, but he seems (to me anyway) to be a funny, insightful comedian.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
29. TO be fair
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:19 PM
Oct 2021

The OP has residences in 4 different countries and currently lives in Sweden, so they may be missing some nuance when it comes to how played out this story is in US news cycles. It's very 2 weeks ago, even though Chappelle seems intent on keeping it going, which is probably smart for his bottom line, given that controversy sells tickets.

Celerity

(43,383 posts)
33. I own one residence, in Sweden. I never owned my residences in London or Los Angeles, my parents do.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:42 PM
Oct 2021

We did rent a flat in London (we wanted our own place) after we came back from the US, right before we moved to Stockholm.

I am aware of the American news cycle, this article is about a video he just released via IG on Monday.

a 5-minute clip of a live set posted Monday to his Instagram

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
35. But its okay to trash our community?
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:48 PM
Oct 2021

Thus creating more hate against us that we already have to deal with

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
24. Sad to see some still making excuses for his bigotry.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:49 PM
Oct 2021

Yes, he has been and can be funny; that isn't the point. Yes, he is a member of a persecuted minority; it doesn't mean he understands the viewpoints of other minorities, of which he is not a member. With this latest whine, he is doing nothing more than painting himself as a victim; he is not! Honestly, this is starting to sound like a person who has murdered his parents going before the judge and pleading for compassion because, after all, he's an orphan now.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
27. Because they do not care for the trans community
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:15 PM
Oct 2021

Being trans is different from being gay or lesbian. We are not seen as human to most people so it's not surprising some old schools dems here don't get it. They never would unless they sit and talk to us. What Chappelle did went and did cause an effect on our community. I've seen a lot more transphobic stuff than I have in a while

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
39. There isn't much love for the gay and lesbian community either from these types.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:07 AM
Oct 2021

We are dismissed. Our struggles are equated to "getting oily and wearing booty shorts". We have been blamed for elections losses. Attacks on our community are always by "some closet case who doth protest too much". The attacks we are seeing on the trans community are nothing more than a continuation of the attacks against the heteronormative cultures, and, sadly, there are those in the gay and lesbian community who don't see the writing on the walls...literally, in some cases.

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