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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHighly negative email from The People's Party, bashing EVERY Democrat in the House and Senate....
...including the Squad and Senator Sanders.
Posted as an FYI for DUers to see how negative and divisive they are. They are NOT Democrats.
The Democrats Build Back Better Act is a weak piece of legislation that doesnt even begin to address the sweeping issues facing American families. Every iteration of this bill has failed to address domestic needs like the housing crisis, universal healthcare, living wages and climate change.
What began as a paltry bill has now been gutted beyond recognition. Spending has been slashed in half, dropping from $3.5 trillion to $1.5-2 trillion, and eliminating what minorly effective policies it had. What remains is a shell of ineffective, corporate and temporary crumbs.
The global economy and this country is still reeling from a pandemic and depression and our representatives just presented one of the weakest social bills in American history, taking us backwards.
Contribute $10 today to help us build a major new Peoples Party that will hold its representatives accountable to the policies that the majority of Americans are demanding.
This bill has proven even further that there are no progressives in Congress. The Squad and Bernie Sanders are towing the party line by touting Bidens horrible bill instead of the policies they rightfully said we needed just a year ago. They have drastically lowered the bar that they ran on and promised to the American people. Real change will never come from the corporate parties.
Progressives were supposed to push Biden. Instead theyve lined up behind him and sold us on his corporate agenda, just like progressive Democrats have for decades.
The mainstream media and the Democrats pointing to Senators like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema for obstruction of this toothless bill is just a distraction from who really pulls the shots.
The finger-pointing from both Democrats and Republicans serves to mask the fact that their typical band-aid legislation stems from the real party that rules Capitol Hill the corporate party.
Every single member of Congress toes the corporate line. Gone are the days of demanding Medicare for all, housing as a human right, and a federal jobs guarantee. Forgotten are the fights for working infrastructure, college for all, and a Green New Deal. Theyre just like every other politician, promises every campaign season that go forgotten the moment they have the power to make change.
Millions of American voters are changing their ballots to independent and the majority are sick and tired of the status quo and caricature representation.
Right now the Peoples Party is gearing up in states across the country to garner ballot access and reach millions of voters. Can you contribute $10 today to help build a party that will not do politics as usual but make real, lasting and sustainable change?
Thousands of volunteers are working across the country to build the Peoples Party. A major new party that will demand an end to half-measures and weak policies. We deserve better.
Lets build a Peoples Party,
Nick Brana
National Chair
Peoples Party
bottomofthehill
(8,332 posts)They should shut the fuck up and stay out of the way of incremental progress.
What a great idea, run third party morons to dilute Democratic votes and ensure Republican victories.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts). . . Justice Dems . . .
. . . Political Playbook lays it out today . . .
Biden so much needs something this week.
Not Biden's fault. Thoroughly boxed in.
All these very varied factions with their independent financial/fund-raising sources. They each have their own priorities first and . . .
George II
(67,782 posts)...general group of people.
JohnSJ
(92,204 posts)Putting trump in the WH, and helped give us the Supreme Court we have today by their actions
They are a bunch of losers who should be viewed as persona non grata
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Yep... Nina ("voting for Biden is like eating a bowl of shit'') Turner is a founding member. I remember she resented that she was forced to run "as a Democrat" in Ohio recently... because this so-called People's Party couldn't get on the ballot.
Yes, indeed they are losers. The only "power" they have is to have temper tantrums while making unrealistic demands... they can only split/dilute the vote and hand election victories to the GOP. (And they're THRILLED with that outcome!!!)
They have ZERO intention of making a difference. It's clear that they only thing they want to do is benefit personally by grifting the gullible AND to "punish" the Democrats for not being sufficiently kooky and as far-left as they are. It's why they intentionally kneecapped Hillary... withholding support... encouraging/excusing "3rd-party-voting". It's all a scam.
Fuck third-parties! Fuck Stein. Fuck Nader. Fuck those short-sighted idiots who support them... Turner, West, Moore.
melm00se
(4,993 posts)some folks here say we need to have a parliamentary form of government ("To break the 2 party system that gets nothing done" and we have posts like this ("Fuck third-parties" .
Which is it?
BTW, the ground is fertile for the potential explosion of a 3rd party.
While I will probably be branded a heretic: both political parties have drifted too far from the center where the majority of Americans are. Unless one (or both) drift back towards the center, it is only a matter of time before a highly charismatic leader will appeal the middle and drive him of herself to the White House.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)What I'm trying to point out is that when people say things like that, it's coming dangerously close to a declaration that "both parties are the same" and that serves no good purpose at all.
gab13by13
(21,349 posts)They are probably made up of Russian trolls, just like the Bernie Bro's leader was a Russian troll.
ProfessorGAC
(65,057 posts)They're a blip on the political radar.
Also, the tone of the letter makes me believe nothing would be good enough anyway.
So, this seems a complaint by professional complainers.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Why aren't they attacking the GOP for not supporting the things they want? Hey if 10 GOPers would vote with the Democratic party look at the things the Democratic Party would achieve. So they need to attack the GOP coming out of the starting line.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)We talk about them because they are dangerous, very dangerous.
Some folks just dont know any better, they dont understand how a 2 party system works and that when you introduce the idea of a 3rd party what it does is elect people like Donald Trump.
But the leaders of these types are usually not at all who they say they are and often are funded by Putin and so on.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)It's jarring, seeing how the BBB has devolved. But how would you go about putting a positive spin on that?
George II
(67,782 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)that this is somehow small.
Isnt it the 2nd largest ever after the last one from 2020?
haele
(12,659 posts)Unfortunately, unless one gets rid of all Diversity, Democracy implies compromise and incremental progress.
This country is made up of Innocents, Criminals, Victims, Bullies, and a wide in between spectrum of social roles in between that everyone inhabits - and most can fall into several different roles at the same time.
Notice the term "Roles". Whether you participate or not, you are filling a social role in the US.
For all our self-proclaimed "freedom" and "individuality" none of us is living buck-nekkid on the frontier, making out own tools and clothes with sticks and rocks; with no one around to impact or interact with when we need "supplies".
Even the Uni-Bomber went to town to use the Post Office...
With over 300 million individuals that have a variety of needs, for this country to be relatively peaceful, just, and fulfilling to a significant majority regardless of social privileges, there must be compromise.
Two major principles need to be recognized and adhered to.
Laws and regulations must be uniform, logically (scientifically) based, evolutionary, and can be equally and fairly applicable across all people and situations.
People in positions authority must be held to a uniform professional standard.
And we as a Nation must always work towards these, through Civics training and public service requirements.
No one can be so special they're above Laws and Responsibilities - nor can anyone be judged so deviant that Laws and Responsibilities don't apply to their treatment.. This is the basis of Compromise.
And radicals (right and left) need to realize this if they really want a change for the better- just as much as the general public needs to be re-educated in the basic functions of Democracy.
Haele
Stuart G
(38,428 posts)....They are the ..."NADER PARTY" ultimately set up to destroy us/Biden...
Without the Nader Party...No Bush Jr...THINK ABOUT THAT ONE FOR A WHILE...
Budi
(15,325 posts)Sen. Nina Turner and Dr. Cornel West Keynote Peoples Convention
August 7, 2020
Contact:
media@peoplesparty.org
This is the Party she whipped up support for, before she changed to Dem Party to run in OH-11.
Is this the one where she called Biden a "bowl of shit"?
SEND $10!!!!!
JFC 🙄
George II
(67,782 posts)....candidate. But they didn't do their homework and they didn't qualify to be on the ballot.
So she reluctantly ran or, as they put it "she had to run as a Democrat", against Shontel Brown.
Thankfully Brown won, and she'll be an excellent Representative.
melm00se
(4,993 posts)A portion of FDR's 2nd Bill of Rights statement.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)That's what populists are, driven by antagonism to "the establishment" and that includes the Democratic Party establishment. Just like tRump's populists. And like all drawn to populist movements, they're hostile, dishonest and dishonorable in their tactics.
These try to hide it under a dressing of Democratic Party values that they only partially believe in and abandon easily. Over 70 million liberal Democratic voters believe in those values, though, so they claim ownership. But no one should forget how determinedly they threw all our goals under the bus in hopes of defeating us in 2016.
Weakness of ideology is characteristic of populist movements. They can style themselves as socialists, nationalists, monarchists nihilists, progressives, but their strongman leaders can take them a lot of directions. That's how some of them could, amazingly, switch from the LW progressive to the RW fascist movement in 2016; ideology under the bus to continue their crusade against the Democratic establishment.
Not nice people. And that's why they often seem to be far more like tRump's RW populists than Democrats. Because they are.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)Lending ZERO credibility to this bunch, I would like to add that if mainstream Democrats could just say:
"Yes, universal healthcare is possible and doable, and we will get there"
No "buts", no "someday", but plainly stating YES we all agree that this basic right afforded around the world is to be also here, PERIOD!
This disarms most of these assholes. Does not guarantee a timeline because that is impossible to do given the OTHER SIDE are all fascist fucks dedicated to KILLING us! But SHUTS UP the so called progs who BASH Democrats over the issue.
mcar
(42,334 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Or is the outfit nut job Nena Turner was part of?
George II
(67,782 posts)....merely an "organization".
They tried to get Turner on next week's ballot for the OH-11 seat but forgot to register as a party before the deadline. That's why she ran in the Democratic primary.
Here's how they worded it in their press release:
They're now registered as a "party" in a few states and will be running candidates for Congress next year.
To give the breadth of coverage and following they're getting, a couple of months ago they conducted an online "National Call". Here's a screenshot of it a half hour into the 90-minute call. The number of people online is at the bottom (keep in mind, I was one of those 3! ) :
Here's the next one in September - 19 people online!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)than they are anti GOP. FAR MORE
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)ForgedCrank
(1,782 posts)does anyone even takes these clowns seriously?