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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 02:59 PM Oct 2021

Trump's Decisions Led to Tens of Thousands More Deaths

Trump’s Decisions Led to Tens of Thousands More Deaths

October 26, 2021 at 1:18 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 54 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2021/10/26/trump-decisions-led-to-tens-of-thousands-more-deaths/

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“Dr. Deborah Birx, who helped run the coronavirus pandemic response for former President Donald Trump, told congressional investigators earlier this month that Mr. Trump’s White House failed to take steps that could have prevented tens of thousands of deaths,” the New York Times reports.

Said Birz: “I believe if we had fully implemented the mask mandates, the reduction in indoor dining, the getting friends and family to understand the risk of gathering in private homes, and we had increased testing, that we probably could have decreased fatalities into the 30 percent less to 40 percent less range.”

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Trump's Decisions Led to Tens of Thousands More Deaths (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2021 OP
400,000 is more like it. Possibly 500,000 underpants Oct 2021 #1
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I agree. "hundreds of thousands of deaths" is the correct response. Pobeka Oct 2021 #4
She talks that talk now but never took that stand when it was critical. brush Oct 2021 #14
Yes, I compare our countries Canada and US. We did not get widespread Bev54 Oct 2021 #21
Stop diluting the blame. central scrutinizer Oct 2021 #3
100 % ! put the blame where it need's to be !! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #8
People will endlessly quibble about the exact number. Girard442 Oct 2021 #5
The jim jones of today is trump Beachnutt Oct 2021 #6
Hundreds of thousands, actually. 2naSalit Oct 2021 #7
Crimes against humanity Bayard Oct 2021 #9
And you, deborah, sat silently in agreement. Blood on YOUR hands, as well. niyad Oct 2021 #10
THIS malaise Oct 2021 #20
You would think DJT Jr would make up a T-shirt ... fierywoman Oct 2021 #11
"Guns don't kill people, Republicans kill people." CaptainTruth Oct 2021 #13
Perhaps we should do that... Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #19
Isn't Brazil doing something about BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #12
Yes inthewind21 Oct 2021 #26
Jake Tapper is on this. applegrove Oct 2021 #15
In May, Canada was at half the Covid deaths as the US per capita. Not sure if applegrove Oct 2021 #16
Ok so she admitts blame IbogaProject Oct 2021 #17
They figured it would kill Dems in cities. Never get to the rural areas. Augiedog Oct 2021 #18
All told, TFG killed many more of his own suckers than Dems. rickyhall Oct 2021 #25
Yep. All Roads-to-Ruin lead to donald. calimary Oct 2021 #22
And through him, because, Captain Zero Oct 2021 #23
One of the missing links here is that From The Beginning he and his posse of enablers told everyone Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #24
Thank You for posting...K and R..That is why Trump is the ...WORST PRESIDENT EVER.& WORST PERSON TO Stuart G Oct 2021 #27

spanone

(135,843 posts)
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Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:17 PM
Oct 2021

And why have there been no hearings about this? Not a single one.

brush

(53,784 posts)
14. She talks that talk now but never took that stand when it was critical.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:59 PM
Oct 2021

Instead she mollycoddled trump and just went along, unlike Dr. Fauci, who pushed back.

Bev54

(10,053 posts)
21. Yes, I compare our countries Canada and US. We did not get widespread
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:18 PM
Oct 2021

vaccines until spring 2021 for most of the population. I look at our death rate in comparison, we are just under 30,000 deaths which extrapolated to your population being 10 times ours, your deaths would be around 300,000. While still an outrageous number, it is more than 400,000 less than actual deaths. I also think your death rate is far higher than what is reported because of manipulation of numbers in many red states.

Girard442

(6,075 posts)
5. People will endlessly quibble about the exact number.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:35 PM
Oct 2021

Really, if it was "only" 100 people, would that be OK?

Bayard

(22,083 posts)
9. Crimes against humanity
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:45 PM
Oct 2021

What would be said about this happening in any other country?

Indict and try him.

niyad

(113,329 posts)
10. And you, deborah, sat silently in agreement. Blood on YOUR hands, as well.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:45 PM
Oct 2021

I will never forgive you. You trashed your whole career for that murdering orange tra8tor**. Hope it was worth it.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
12. Isn't Brazil doing something about
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:48 PM
Oct 2021

holding their dear leader responsible for so many unnecessary deaths in their country?

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
16. In May, Canada was at half the Covid deaths as the US per capita. Not sure if
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:13 PM
Oct 2021

the difference is greater during the last few months as Canada had our own DeSantises but our vaccination rate was higher by the end of summer.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
24. One of the missing links here is that From The Beginning he and his posse of enablers told everyone
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:40 PM
Oct 2021

not to take precautions like social distancing and masking seriously. That led to many who would otherwise NOT have been infected getting exposed. Many of those now number among the dead or disabled.

He radically understated the known risk and viscously attacked ANYONE with professional knowledge who disputed that. By doing so he further encouraged his followers to ignore reasonable behavior and advice from health authorities and others, thus creating barriers to information and enlarging the potential pool of the infected carriers.

He also put 1st responders and medical providers at extended risk which no doubt led to deaths among them as well.

There were documented plans produced at several levels of government to help cope with such an emergency. All of which Trump and his people ignored, threw out, or publicly condemned. Likewise the advice and evaluations made by the CDC and other organizations familiar with public health emergencies were muted or denied.

If we were to approach this as acts taken by a foreign government against its own population we would class it as genocide and demand justice.

Stuart G

(38,428 posts)
27. Thank You for posting...K and R..That is why Trump is the ...WORST PRESIDENT EVER.& WORST PERSON TO
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:47 PM
Oct 2021
EVER BE PRESIDENT.......The title of your post is it..." ALL OF IT"....!!!!

(This will take time, but historians will agree with you...over time..no one is worse than Trump)

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