'How Many Elections Are They Gonna Steal Before We Kill These People?'

[MissMillie]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/charlie-kirk-gets-asked-at-tpusa-event-how-many-elections-are-they-gonna-steal-before-we-kill-these-people/ar-AAPYIzQ?ocid=U483DHP&li=BBnb7Kz

Kirk spoke at Boise State University on Monday night as part of his Exposing Critical Racism tour, during which he condemned critical race theory and pushed false claims of voter fraud.

Roughly one hour and 12 minutes into the event, Kirk was asked something the audience member himself deemed “a bit out of the ordinary.”

“At this point, we’re living under corporate and medical fascism. This is tyranny. When do we get to use the guns? No, and I’m not — that’s not a joke,” asked the audience member. “I’m not saying it like that. I mean, literally, where’s the line? How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people?”

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"...not a joke..."

[TheRealNorth]

1. Which is why if you are not taking steps to protect yourself....

You are trusting the Nazi's not to do Nazi things.

If I lived in a rural area, I would be especially scared given they could probably shoot you and the police and judge would probably let the perp walk.

[Walleye]

3. What steps do you suggest?

[reACTIONary]

39. My thought exactly. nt

[Happy Hoosier]

66. I'm not a gun nut.... but.... NT

[Walleye]

67. I'm not the fastest draw west of the Pecos. So I don't want a gun

[Happy Hoosier]

68. It is, of course, a personal decision.

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I grew up in the country and am comfortable with guns. But they are not really a daily part of my life. And if you aren't competent with one, and not really willing to put in the time to get competent (which I completely understand), then NOT getting one is the responsible position. A gun fight is LAST place I'd ever want to be.... except a gun fight where I am without a gun myself.

[Walleye]

69. Agree with all of that.If I still lived in the country, I might want one around

[czarjak]

15. Nazis consider Klansmen to be amateurs!

[ms liberty]

26. I live in a very red, very rural southern county. People are not

Shooting each other over politics out here in the BFE. Jeez. That's just as ridiculous as the woman I knew who right after 9/11 was terrified that the Muslim terrorists were going to invade and kill her in her bed...way out here in Nowheresville, North Carolina. C'mon people.

[Celerity]

36. Non-linear warfare buttressed with reflexive control & given nuclear-powered wings via social media

can change this equation:

People are not
Shooting each other over politics out here in the BFE. Jeez. That's just as ridiculous as the woman I knew who right after 9/11 was terrified that the Muslim terrorists were going to invade and kill her in her bed...way out here in Nowheresville, North Carolina. C'mon people.

massive difference

The potential agents of violent bloodshed are already right there, in BFE, and have been for a century or more. They are being bombarded and immersed more and more with an ecosystem that increasingly frames their political opponents as deadly enemies of all facets of their life, deadly threats to their very bedrock social constructs. Tens of millions have already had the very concepts of objective facts and truth annihilated.

All it takes is an inflection point reached, facilitated by a few influential 'tip of the spear' local catalysts, and mobs can form and churn into a 'strength in numbers' maelstrom capable of a multiplicity of actions that are dismissed as impossible under a pattern of continual, long-term normalcy bias.

Human history is littered for thousands of years with similar behaviour. The US is not immune from such forces. The ties that bind and give some protection are being rent asunder more and more as each week, month, and year flows by.

[reACTIONary]

40. Sure...

... but what about acne?

[Celerity]

42. I love Acne, they are arguably my favourite Swedish designer. Their output can be quite adventurous,

envelope-pushing, and non-conformist.

https://www.acnestudios.com/se/en/home

[reACTIONary]

44. Sure...

... but left handed or right handed?

[Celerity]

45. I am ambidextrous and ambipedal so I chose both.

[reACTIONary]

46. So...

... Does that put you on the right, or the wrong side of the brain?

[Celerity]

47. I am whole-brained

Left-Brain Right-Brain Myth, Debunked: Foster Creativity and Logic in the Classroom

https://www.hmhco.com/blog/left-brain-right-brain-myth-debunked

[reACTIONary]

50. Well OK...

... as long as you are "patting" yourself on the whole brain. Wouldn't want you to be "stimulating" the wrong side.

[ms liberty]

41. And that's a far more detailed scenario than the op was commenting about

But all these people in rural areas just waiting for a tipping point...if they form a mob and start killing democrats, they'd be killing their neighbors, their barber, the guy who cures their deer meat, or one of the local hairdressers. In a rural county everybody knows everybody, and their parents and grandparents and they're likely related in there somewhere. They would be killing the people they see and interact with every day. People who are friends, relatives, coworkers.

I have to stop here...my dog is demanding my attention.

[LiberatedUSA]

48. I live in rural Missouri.

Mostly Republicans, but we Democratic voters are here to. Everyone here isn’t fighting over politics. That is for Twitter and online political forums.

They do have lots of guns. Anyone that thinks they will hand over their AR-15s is living in a dream world. It is another world out here as far as that is concerned. But that does have a small perk. It keeps any violent protests to the cities. Nobody is bringing a bus load of looters out here where the guns would absolutely come out to defend the town. And there are a LOT of guns, mainly the ones we only want the cops we protest to have because we can’t see how silly it is to call a gun a mass murder weapon then want it banned from everyone but the same cops we protest for killing us.

[ms liberty]

51. A lot of guns. Not much in the way of gun crimes here

In the last say ten years only a handful of gun deaths - and that would be murder, accidental and suicide combined. Probably six or maybe eight at the most.

[Act_of_Reparation]

58. Well gosh.

Good thing no mob in the history of humanity has ever raised a finger against its neighb...

...oh. Right.

[Walleye]

2. See, they aren't really stockpiling weapons for personal protection

They got a lot of guns and now they are itching to shoot somebody, and they will scratch that itch.

[sanatanadharma]

8. Been itching many years to use their "Liberal Hunting License"

For decades I have seen these jokes, and jokers jerking at the yoke restraining their mad desire to manifest the reason and purpose and perceived benefit of the life, the soul, of a gun.

[Walleye]

12. And every once in a while one of them will pick up an AR 15 and just start mowing people down

[GoneOffShore]

4. Glad that I've made my user name come true.

And I lived in Philadelphia until 2018.

[RKP5637]

6. Excellent move!!! IMO the US is pretty unstable, and a lot of wackos are running

around in the GOP!

[Jedi Guy]

23. Yep, right there with you.

Don't get me wrong, I love America, warts and all, and it will always be my home. Buuuuuuuuut I'm glad I'm living in Canada these days. I left in 2012 so I bailed before the rise of the crazies, but at this point I don't foresee my wife and I ever returning to the States.

[TheRealNorth]

54. 100% agree

When they try to steal the presidency in 2024 using the 12th Amendment, the Republicans are going to count on our acquiescence.

[GoneOffShore]

61. I'm still voting from abroad and calling elected reps. But I decided that the day-to-day BS

was just not worth my health, my strength, or my time.

In the words of Paul Simon:

Dogs in the moonlight
Far away in my well-lit door
Mr. Beerbelly, Beerbelly
Get these mutts away from me
You know, I don't find this stuff amusing anymore

[DeeNice]

5. Kirk is a worm.

Saying that the left is trying to get them to be violent when all the while he is fanning the flames.

[DinahMoeHum]

7. Maybe WE should be asking this. . .

and that stupid fuck Charlie Kirk better be careful what he wishes for. Just sayin'

[Thomas Hurt]

9. dude is living in tyranny....yet he has the freedom to level death threats against others.

[sanatanadharma]

10. The issue is not POV, guns and threats and madness...

The issue is morality and absence of morality. The issue is kindergarten knowledge, actually the lack of it.

When war and killing are in minds and sick souls, we are far beyond politics and civics and cities and societies and all those synced-systems serving up our balkanized consumer kitch.

No one pines for the days when the war lords ruled and pillaged the village!

[MissMillie]

11. well said (n/t)

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[dchill]

13. Useless anti-democratic firestarter.

[Traildogbob]

14. I heard

This shit on the Michelangelo Signorile Show today. That shit hole student should be thrown out of Boise State as Terrorist threatening mass killings. This assholes are gonna force some pink misting from us snowflakes. I am sick of their terrorism. Time to treat em as such.

[czarjak]

16. Echoing loud and clear, rubes. Still bullshit, too!

[NurseJackie]

17. Why do they think that they're the ONLY ones with guns?

[liberalgunwilltravel]

19. Why?

Because, as they have amply demonstrated, they aren’t very bright.

[NurseJackie]

20. Good answer!

[Jedi Guy]

25. Well, the odds are in their favor on that one, unfortunately...

From Pew Research:

Besides demographic differences, clear partisan divides emerge when it comes to gun ownership. Republicans and Republican-leaning independents are more than twice as likely as Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents to say they own a gun (44% vs. 20%). This partisan gap remains even after controlling for demographic differences.

So I daresay they have us outgunned, as it were.

[Dan]

29. No, what they have is

Per person, they might own several more guns. They might have a stockpile of 20,30,40 different guns.

But my experience is - that you normally can only shoot one gun at a time.

[TheRealNorth]

52. And they are already threatening election workers and school board members with violence...

and seem to be getting away with it in most cases. Not to mention the kid that ran over 6 cyclists while trying to "roll coal". As of last week, no charges have been made. Don't get me started about Rittenhouse - I can already tell you he won't see the inside of a prison.

[Jedi Guy]

60. You're probably right about Rittenhouse.

Even with the footage the FBI found, odds are at least one juror will swallow the self-defense claim. I'm expecting that the only charge that will stick is the minor in possession of a weapon.

[rickyhall]

18. Homeland Security ought to be talking to that Nazi motherfucker.

[packman]

21. Thanks for posting

I was going to directly post that unbelievable video but couldn't figure out how to do it


Frighting shit that they think that way - need to get that motherfucker's name and have his house raided - I would bet he has a stockpile of guns and ammo

[Turbineguy]

22. Yes, a permanent civil war.

People will really want to live here. Armed and dangerous.

[CaptainTruth]

24. This is the result of a relentless rich & powerful right wing propaganda machine.

Why do people believe this crap? Messaging. Right wing propaganda messaging, delivered over & over again, until it brainwashes them into believing crap like this.

I've become convinced that fighting the RW propaganda machine, & fighting back against their messaging, is essential to saving our country. We cannot ignore it if we want American democracy to continue.

[calimary]

27. Damn right: MESSAGING!

I almost literally want to bang my head against the wall on this subject. WHEN are our Dems gonna get with it??? And start really getting this?

Strategic Messaging is EVERYTHING!

[TheRealNorth]

53. Totally agree with you there.

[Evolve Dammit]

28. Hate radio was ignored for 40 years, and Fox for the last 20? Hell, Limbaugh was on Armed Forces

Radio and most college campuses since the late 1980's. That is how this shit started.

[barbtries]

30. he means it. nt

[Sucha NastyWoman]

33. Who is Charlie Kirk?

[trof]

34. Highlight "Charlie Kirk"

Right click.
Click on "Search Google..."
VIOLA!

[Layzeebeaver]

35. parents might have been Trekkies...

...but they obviously didn't pass on the values.

[SergeStorms]

37. Idaho.

That's it, just Idaho.

[maxsolomon]

55. Montana, Wyoming, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon, Southwestern Oregon, Northern California...

The Rural West has become radicalized, paranoid, aggrieved, and they are UNEDUCABLE.

[SergeStorms]

57. Quite so.

I feel so sorry for Democrats who have to live in those places. It must feel like living in exile from your home country.

[TeamProg]

38. Where the F*CK is Garland? Let's get going! n/t

[maxsolomon]

56. What do you expect the DOJ to do about this?

I'm sure they'll be happy to prosecute the dude when he kills some Librulz, but until then, he's (probably) a White Man...

[uponit7771]

63. Treat the people who are inspiring this Stop The Steal bullshit like they would treat a black

... person or a Muslim person by now.

If the J6 assholes were black or Muslim there would be 123asdf123 convictions and Putin's Whore would be locked up by now for inciting the act.

The DOJ knows how to act fast when the color of the peoples skin is different ... bet that.

[TeamProg]

70. I thought it was obvious to most that I was speaking in the general sense. Meaning that

some effort by the DOJ to investigate, charge and prosecute the current batch of 1/6 offenders will have a squelching effect on other wingnuts.

[maxsolomon]

71. Yeah, that's not happening, to 1/6 organizers or this delusional asshole.

It appears the DOJ can't figure out a crime to charge the organizers with. Conspiracy is very tough to prove.

They're all fairly well versed in making their threats of violence generic, not directed at an individual, and therefore "metaphorical".

[vercetti2021]

49. Shoot at me

I'll fucking shoot right back. You don't own all the guns chuckle heads

[KentuckyWoman]

59. bring it

I was raised in "middle of nowhere" Kentucky. We trapped and shot a lot of food. My father made sure every one of us understood guns and gun safety. Although I don't much like guns, I am a good shot. I've been told I decide faster than most, choose well and don't hesitate.

There's a lot more women like me in America than you might think. I don't want to pull a trigger, but if some stupidass comes after me and mine, I will do it.

This said. This crap about civil war is just that. Crap. It isn't going to happen any time soon. The media loves to push this. Social media especially. But on the ground in America, this just isn't happening.

[Demovictory9]

62. even the CA recall, despite blowout results, some started with "they stole it" but other repubs

pushed back telling them, "CA is deep blue"..

[Irish_Dem]

64. This is what they want to do. Start killing us.

[lagomorph777]

65. Sedition. Lock the fucker up.