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How is it Democracy when 2 people can decide they will kill human kind (Original Post) onecaliberal Oct 2021 OP
It's bad leadership n/t leftstreet Oct 2021 #1
Who? How? marybourg Oct 2021 #2
Assuming you are talking about 2 elected senators, elected by several million voters. Hoyt Oct 2021 #3
They represent a tiny fraction of the country. onecaliberal Oct 2021 #5
Don't agree with them, but there are 50 GOPers too. And, Hoyt Oct 2021 #8
They can't FBaggins Oct 2021 #4
Very good point. TY! onecaliberal Oct 2021 #6
Yup, can't ignore the 50 Pubs and those who elected them Amishman Oct 2021 #12
We have gradually let bribing politicians to become acceptable practice Liberal In Texas Oct 2021 #7
Well, it's not Democracy. It's a Democratic Republic. localroger Oct 2021 #9
Yip, I missed the part that individuals could be separate houses of Congress UTUSN Oct 2021 #10
There are also 48 other ones who are culpable. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #11
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Don't agree with them, but there are 50 GOPers too. And,
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 10:25 PM
Oct 2021

just guessing, but bet there are a few other Democrats glad those two are opposing original proposal.

Don’t like the results, but think that is democracy.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
12. Yup, can't ignore the 50 Pubs and those who elected them
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 07:16 AM
Oct 2021

And they aren't even at the negotiating table at all

Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
7. We have gradually let bribing politicians to become acceptable practice
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 09:42 PM
Oct 2021

and legal to boot.

Putting $$$ in front of many even altruistic pols, and especially some who are just naturally craven, is too much temptation. And there seems to be no consequences for being corrupt.

We've let this get worse and worse over the years with little public outrage. Now here we are.

localroger

(3,629 posts)
9. Well, it's not Democracy. It's a Democratic Republic.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 11:37 PM
Oct 2021

It was designed from the outset, very explicitly by our Founding Fathers, to be only just-so democratic so that certain prevailing interests could be secure. At the outset those included the slaveholding interests of the South. But even after the Civil War, the structures put into the Constitution to protect them (and make no mistake, the Constitution was structured to protect those interests) still protected the losers of the Civil War, who were mostly given a pass for their insurrection in the interest of "healing the nation."

Direct democracy was not possible with the technology of the 1700's, but something a lot better than the Senate clusterfuck we live with today surely was. Our current problem is, as bad as the crapfest they saddled us with is, they recognized probably correctly that something even worse would emerge in any partisan environment that was likely to emerge in the years after 1790. So they made it very difficult to change the Constitution. Which is either great wisdom or a tragedy depending on how you look at it. We are basically running Democracy 0.9 unpatched in a world where 3.x is the norm, and updates are disabled.

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