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The Secret Behind Trump's January 2 Phone Call Revealed (Original Post) Generic Other Oct 2021 OP
Fuggin Republican traitors carefully planned attack on America Champp Oct 2021 #1
Where is MSM again? Burying its head in the sand and being delusional. triron Oct 2021 #4
There was a gun death involving a bad Baldwin. FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #7
After all, they ONLY have 24 hours a day 7 days a week PatSeg Oct 2021 #27
Where is DOJ? gab13by13 Oct 2021 #10
My question as well. triron Oct 2021 #31
the whole article (I read it last night) is definitely worth five bucks' subscription. Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #2
So who should they talk to? I ended the article with them about to tell us :) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2021 #15
I hope it turns out that somebody recorded those Jan. 2 and Jan. 5 calls FakeNoose Oct 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #20
If Chump was at a secret meeting at the Willard Hotel FakeNoose Oct 2021 #22
I hate these "Please Subscribe" tweets from anyone. BadGimp Oct 2021 #5
Yeah, pure click-bait. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #8
I find he's been credible in the past Generic Other Oct 2021 #11
No way to tell - all you shared is an empty headline. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #13
Click here Generic Other Oct 2021 #18
Thanks for the link! I like Abramson, but I too hate all these indo journo silo paywalls. NT FreepFryer Oct 2021 #35
You want him to do his work for free, for your pleasure? Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #26
There is that. calimary Oct 2021 #36
I'm with you. KS Toronado Oct 2021 #28
what was the Jan 2 conversation? Hamlette Oct 2021 #6
Probably just click bait lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #9
If what Abramson writes is true, what made Trump tell the insurrectionists to go home? Efilroft Sul Oct 2021 #12
Wasn't it over by that point? In other words, all congressman Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2021 #17
It makes him look like he cared, yes. Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #24
Yes you stated much better! Probably the only way they got him to do it Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2021 #29
That's certainly one possibility, despite Trump having no acquaintance with decency. Efilroft Sul Oct 2021 #30
Well could they have done that - occupy for days without a "leader" there to carry the thing thru? Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2021 #33
Rt TY Cha Oct 2021 #14
Why doesn't Congress just bring in Seth Abramson and let him present his research Poiuyt Oct 2021 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #21
well, he does make a living as an investigative journalist Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #23
Some content: lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #19
K & R malaise Oct 2021 #25
I hope so. It BETTER BE coming. calimary Oct 2021 #37
K&R UTUSN Oct 2021 #32
It does make a piece of the puzzle fall into place. scipan Oct 2021 #34

Champp

(2,114 posts)
1. Fuggin Republican traitors carefully planned attack on America
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 12:34 PM
Oct 2021

and American democracy. Not to mention their plan to obliterate truth, decency, and honor.

Lock them up.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
7. There was a gun death involving a bad Baldwin.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 02:32 PM
Oct 2021

C'mon man, how can we expect them to be aware of anything else??



It's pretty pathetic

gab13by13

(21,362 posts)
10. Where is DOJ?
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 02:41 PM
Oct 2021

All of the information we have gotten on the coup has come from reporters. If you mean cable news, it is right wing.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
2. the whole article (I read it last night) is definitely worth five bucks' subscription.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 12:59 PM
Oct 2021

I had trouble sleeping, after reading.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
3. I hope it turns out that somebody recorded those Jan. 2 and Jan. 5 calls
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 01:25 PM
Oct 2021

Somebody please have a digital recording of Chump incriminating himself.

Response to FakeNoose (Reply #3)

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
22. If Chump was at a secret meeting at the Willard Hotel
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 03:22 PM
Oct 2021

... and if it was about overthrowing the election, then I doubt the NSA got wind of it.

BadGimp

(4,015 posts)
5. I hate these "Please Subscribe" tweets from anyone.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 02:06 PM
Oct 2021

I understand the economics everyone is facing but I'm kinda done with listening to people who put the ask out there like that.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. Yeah, pure click-bait.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 02:33 PM
Oct 2021

If the story is real, we'll get the info soon enough. Otherwise, it'll fade away.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
26. You want him to do his work for free, for your pleasure?
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 03:53 PM
Oct 2021

Journalists get paid.

Do you get paid for your work? I hope so.

Why would you want to deny Seth remuneration for his work?

KS Toronado

(17,263 posts)
28. I'm with you.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 04:07 PM
Oct 2021

"Latest & greatest breaking news Qrump wants kept secret!" Oh and $5 bucks please to read my opinion.

Efilroft Sul

(3,579 posts)
12. If what Abramson writes is true, what made Trump tell the insurrectionists to go home?
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 02:48 PM
Oct 2021

Because it wasn't a sense of decency.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Wasn't it over by that point? In other words, all congressman
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 02:56 PM
Oct 2021

and senators were removed and secure? And he knew at that point that Pence was not going to cooperate. Plus, it makes him look like he cared?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. Yes you stated much better! Probably the only way they got him to do it
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 04:11 PM
Oct 2021

By telling him "hey - this is your out -you can claim you tried to stop it"

Efilroft Sul

(3,579 posts)
30. That's certainly one possibility, despite Trump having no acquaintance with decency.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 04:31 PM
Oct 2021

But correct me if I'm wrong, Abramson said the point of taking the Capitol was to occupy it for days to prevent certification so that states would send a different slate of electors. The crowd was chanting "Fight for Trump!" and probably would have continued to do so until a more forceful response made that impossible; maybe they could have occupied parts of the Capitol for X amount of time.

If Trump knew the jig was up and took the out, okay, end of story. But were there perhaps others in the White House who applied some leverage to get Trump to call off the dogs? Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice said.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
33. Well could they have done that - occupy for days without a "leader" there to carry the thing thru?
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 06:31 PM
Oct 2021

Or did Grassley agree to be that de facto person? OR could they not have done that because
they had to have Pence agree to let Grassley (sp?) preside?

And, yes, there definitely could have been pressure on Trump to stop the insanity. BUT -
why didn't they stand up sooner?

Just brainstorming of course - It's all so mysterious for sure.

Poiuyt

(18,126 posts)
16. Why doesn't Congress just bring in Seth Abramson and let him present his research
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 02:54 PM
Oct 2021

to the Select Committee. If what Abramson says is true, it would save everyone a lot of time.

Response to Poiuyt (Reply #16)

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
23. well, he does make a living as an investigative journalist
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 03:50 PM
Oct 2021

You're asking him to give his work product over?

Why not push MSM to do some work? It was Woodward and Bernstein that took down Nixon, with the testimony of John Dean as an assist.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
19. Some content:
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 03:07 PM
Oct 2021

8/ The occupation of the Capitol was necessary—not optional—for state legislators to have enough time to launch special sessions to {"decertify" Biden's electors ( and seat new Trump "electors" ) in battleground states Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
9/ How do we know that Stop the Steal's plan was to occupy the Capitol? Because CNN reported it on January 6 (see the article above). And CNN also reported that the White House was aware of this plan—and that the plan was communicated to the White House *by the insurrectionists*.
10/ The question was how to get Stop the Steal and state legislators on the same page—to ensure the lawless actions of Stop the Steal would actually buy sufficient time for state legislators to stage a legislative coup by (trying to) decertify Biden's 2020 win at the state level.
11/ On January 2, 2021, everyone got on the same page. How? By all being on the same phone call—a phone call was jointly arranged by Trump's legal team and Stop the Steal and was attended by Trump's legal team, political team, Stop the Steal, 290 legislators... and Trump himself.

scipan

(2,351 posts)
34. It does make a piece of the puzzle fall into place.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 08:08 PM
Oct 2021

Eastland’s memo. The part talking about the alternative slates of electors.

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