Why hasn't Bannon been arrested yet? It's been a week.

[triron]

[GPV]

1. Keeping our powder dry again?

[sprinkleeninow]

2. Was just on MSNBC: Still deciding whether to bring criminal charges.

This had better work out.

A New Yorker piece says either way, there'll be flack-- support v criticism.

Garland vs. Bannon Is Bidenism vs. Trumpism | The New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/garland-vs-bannon-is-bidenism-vs-trumpism

[Silent3]

3. It's merely blatantly obvious that Bannon is in contempt without any reasonable defense

That takes at least two to three months to process at the DoJ.

Good thing their aren't minor concerns about whether he should be tried for contempt. That would take years.

[Baked Potato]

4. Could be he is privately singing real good in the lull. Nt

[Scrivener7]

15. Yes. And could be that I am the queen of France.

[Efilroft Sul]

18. I kind of like the idea of having a writer as head of state.

[Scrivener7]

24. .

[Baked Potato]

28. Well.... gosh!

[Celerity]

35. Apres moi, le deluge........

[Scrivener7]

39. That looks unpleasant. I might need to rethink this Queen gig.

[SMC22307]

17. Right. And I'm marrying the hot dude from Bridgerton.

Or maybe the hot dude from Poldark.

[Baked Potato]

27. I guess I walked into that one...

[SMC22307]

36. ...

[texasfiddler]

5. Would we know if a grand jury has been convened? Or is that kept as secret as possible?

I thought this had to occur first.

[Fiendish Thingy]

21. It does- Grand Jury first, then indictment, then arrest.

Some folks just want to skip due process and get a rope.

[former9thward]

32. The DOJ always has grand juries meeting.

They don't need to "call" one.

[uponit7771]

6. How long did it take the last person who was recommended by congress to be arrested? tia

[stillcool]

14. I don't know the process

but it doesn't look very effective. Looks like some things don't change.

Liddy Guilty of Contempt of Congress
By Anthony Ripley Special to The New York Times

WASHINGTON, May 10—One of the original Watergate burglary defendants, G. Gordon Liddy, was found guilty today of two counts of contempt of Congress for refusing to answer questions last, July 20 before a House subcommittee.

Federal District Court Judge John H. Pratt, who heard the case without a jury, gave Mr. Liddy a suspended six‐month sentence and one year's probation, indicating that the penalty was light because of Mr. Liddy's other sentences.

Mr. Liddy, looking trim and fit but slightly pale from his confinement, is now serving two other sentences. He was jailed for up to 18 months for contempt in refusing to answer grand jury questions and given a term of 6 years 8 months to 20 years for his part in the burglary of the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate office building here.

His latest conviction grew From his appearance as a witness before an executive session of the Special Subcommittee on Intelligence of the House Armed Services Committee.

Lavelle Indicted by Grand Jury On Contempt of Congress Charge
By Howard Kurtz May 28, 1983
A federal grand jury yesterday indicted former Environmental Protection Agency official Rita M. Lavelle for contempt of Congress for refusing to testify before a House subcommittee investigating her management of EPA's hazardous waste cleanup fund.

U.S. Attorney Stanley S. Harris announced the indictment eight days after the House voted, 413 to 0, to cite Lavelle for contempt for refusing to comply with a subcommittee subpoena.

EX-E.P.A. OFFICIAL IS CLEARED BY JURY

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/23/us/ex-epa-official-is-cleared-by-jury.html
By Stuart Taylor Jr., Special To the New York Times
July 23, 1983

Rita M. Lavelle, a former Federal environmental official, today was found not guilty of contempt of Congress after two days of testimony about her failure to appear at a Congressional subcommittee hearing.

Miss Lavelle, smiling, said afterward that the verdict ''strengthens my faith in the system, the American system, that it will work.''

Her dismissal as head of the Environmental Protection Agency's toxic waste disposal program Feb. 7 touched off a storm of charges of wrongdoing aimed at Miss Lavelle and others at the agency. Verdict Cannot Be Appealed

The jury verdict in Federal District Court today ends the Government's contempt-of-Congress case against Miss Lavelle. The prosecution cannot appeal a jury's verdict in a criminal case because of the Constitution's protection against double jeopardy. However, the Justice Department is apparently still looking into allegations that she may have committed perjury in Congressional testimony on other occasions.

[Fiendish Thingy]

23. Last person convicted of contempt of congress was G. Gordon Liddy

He was cited in May 1973, and convicted in July 1974…so there’s your timeline.

[Miguelito Loveless]

7. You can be damn sure

that once the Republicans are back in power, arrests will be swift and far reaching.

[Grasswire2]

8. yep

no knock, battering ram swift.

Televised perp walks.

No sternly worded letters then.

[Captain Zero]

11. Maybe he went into hiding?

My guess is a Mercer vacay home.

[jobendorfer]

10. Not a lawyer, and if someone around here is, please chime in and correct me where I'm wrong

1. Pelosi sends complaint to DOJ. Not sure if this has happened yet. I have been searching our generally useless media for information about this but can't find any.

2. DOJ reviews complaint, decides if further investigation is warranted. This will be at least several weeks to make sure everybody understands this case is evidence-driven and not politically driven.

3. Prosecutor assigned, investigators gather evidence, prosecutor decides if charges are warranted. Several more weeks go by.

4. Prosecutor prepares case for presentation to a federal grand jury. More weeks go by.

5. Grand jury hears the case and votes. (We are now somewhere in late Q1/early Q2 2022)

6. Bannon arrested (or surrenders) and is arraigned.

7. Bannon out on bail until trial (which given federal court loads, is probably some time early in 2023).

This is why, even though it's a major pain to manage, that the Congress needs to have its own police force and its own jail, used to enforce its subpoenas. Having a 1.5 year to 3 year lag between a blown-off subpoena and the consequence isn't really much of a deterrent.

J.

[stillcool]

12. probably not what you're looking for....

I
Bannon's been cited for contempt of Congress. But will he ever be forced to cooperate with the Jan. 6 probe?
Caitlin Dickson·Reporter

Tue, October 26, 2021, 1:26 PM·6 min read
https://news.yahoo.com/bannons-been-cited-for-contempt-of-congress-but-will-he-ever-be-forced-to-cooperate-with-the-jan-6-probe-172601854.html

It is now effectively up to the Justice Department to decide whether to present the House’s contempt citation before a grand jury. If that happens and Bannon is indicted, he’ll face a trial in district court and, if found guilty, up to one year in prison and a maximum fine of $100,000. But prosecutions for such cases have historically been rare and convictions even rarer. The last person found guilty of criminal contempt of Congress was Watergate conspirator G. Gordon Liddy in 1974.

The last person to go to trial for contempt of Congress was Rita Lavelle, a former Environmental Protection Agency official in the Reagan administration. In 1983, Lavelle was indicted by a grand jury eight days after the House of Representatives cited her for contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which ordered her to appear at an investigative hearing.

“She did the same thing Bannon did, she just didn’t show up,” said former House counsel Stan Brand, who helped build the criminal contempt case against Lavelle. Brand spoke to Yahoo News about some of the similarities between the 1983 case and the one currently being considered by the Justice Department, and the limits of Congress’s authority to hold recalcitrant witnesses to account.
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Even if Bannon is indicted, the government will have to prove he knowingly and willfully defied his subpoena without an excuse, something Brand and others on the Lavelle case failed to do. Though the House had voted 413-0 to hold Lavelle in contempt of Congress, the jury in the criminal case decided to acquit her after two days of testimony.

“That was the end of that,” Brand said. “They never re-subpoenaed her.”

[moniss]

30. Although

on a happier note she was convicted in 1984 of perjury for lying to Congress about her involvement with misuse of Superfund money at the Stringfellow Acid Pits toxic waste site. Her and Neil Gorsuch's mommy, who was the head of EPA, were playing games with delaying payments etc. in order to hamstring political campaigns in California. Rita served 3 months of a six month sentence. She did not however seem to learn anything because in 2004 she was convicted of federal wire fraud and making false statements to the FBI about her and her business partner forging a man's name on an invoice for work that was never authorized by the man and never performed by the company owned and run by Rita and her partner. The two were caught after they used the forged invoice as "proof" of incoming funds in order to obtain a loan and the finance company had to try and collect on the bad loan from the unwitting person whose signature was forged. Rita was sentenced in 2005 to 15 months in Federal prison. Rita got sprung from the can in 2007 but the Wiki ended the saga there.

Mommy Gorsuch refused to turn over documents to Congress while the 1980's investigation was going on. Sound familiar? She had also promised owners of a company that she wouldn't enforce regulations against them. She was cited for contempt of Congress for refusal to turn over the documents or appear. The fight over the documents was eventually ended when other witnesses came forward and said she had told them about withholding money. The White House Counsel at the time then turned over the documents and Mommy immediately resigned and blamed the media for "pressuring" the situation.

All of this leads me to have little doubt which way Sonny boy was influenced all these years and which way he will vote on any contempt cases or assertion of a right to withhold documents. This should be brought out if cases do reach the SC and his recusal should be sought although whether he would is not likely.

[stillcool]

31. I had no idea.

Jeezus H...reads like a novel. Thaks for the info

[moniss]

33. You

are most welcome for your kind thanks. Yes indeed these crooked pols and their spawn have been at this a long while.

[FoxNewsSucks]

13. To paraphrase Condoleeza Rice:

“I don’t think anybody could have predicted that that person would take a request to appear and slam it into the trash can, take a subpoena and slam it into the crapper, that he would fail to cooperate, completely flip the bird to Democrats.”
–Condoleezza Rice, undisclosed location, sometime last week

[BlackSkimmer]

16. It is always Fitzmas here lol.

Tfg was going down, Mattie was going to be indicted…I could go on.

[lagomorph777]

37. Like Fitzmas and Festivus all rolled into one.

I still remember standing outside DOJ on Pennsylvania Avenue, waiting for the big reveal. I'm still waiting.

[doc03]

19. He won't be nt

[Irish_Dem]

20. Cut him some slack, he has to make sure he gets his special jail menu, comfortable accommodations

and his special pass to Cancun.

[kacekwl]

22. Because he WON'T be.

Along with too many others to count. F this shit.

[brooklynite]

25. Attorney General Garland told you that, did he?

[kacekwl]

34. He didn't have to because

I didn't just fall off a turnip truck and hit my head on the curb. What did he tell you ?

[hamsterjill]

38. You made my day with this reply!!!!

Thank you. I needed a laugh.

There are plenty here who have hit their heads hard falling off that turnip truck. Bannon is laughing his ass off and will never serve a day. His whole tactic is to stall until the midterms and Dems are obviously in no hurry.

[kacekwl]

40. You're welcome.

[Hamlette]

26. lol

[moniss]

29. He is

likely negotiating with them to make them promise not to change his normal routine by making him take a shower. I believe there's enough "wildlife" existing in that jacket he wears that if he takes it off it might run away from him.