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bluewater

(5,376 posts) Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:33 AM Oct 2021

Call me when Manchin & Sinema PUBLICLY support ANY form of the Build Back Better bill

Until then it's all just sound and fury.

And by support, I don't mean vague handwaving, I mean a public commitment to vote for an agreed upon framework.

I'll wait here.

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Call me when Manchin & Sinema PUBLICLY support ANY form of the Build Back Better bill (Original Post) bluewater Oct 2021 OP

If the Infrastructure Bill passed before they have to committ to Build Back Better... Tom Rinaldo Oct 2021 #1

That's the feeling I am getting... bluewater Oct 2021 #2

Manchin is already on record as saying he sees no reason to pass the BBB "this year". PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #5

+1000 bluewater Oct 2021 #7

Call me when the bills are signed. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #3

Don't even count words - only a vote really counts. PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #4

I think if they do it to the framework publicly, it is a done deal. The fact that they haven't JohnSJ Oct 2021 #6

"The fact that they haven't publicly committed to the framework speaks volumes" bluewater Oct 2021 #9

Passing the infrastructure bill would have been a mistake. PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #12

Waiting for Hell to freeze over... rickyhall Oct 2021 #8

+1000 bluewater Oct 2021 #10

call me when they are voted out...til then nothings gonna get done samnsara Oct 2021 #11

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)

1. If the Infrastructure Bill passed before they have to committ to Build Back Better...

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:39 AM

Oct 2021

No way they would ever support it in the current framework form.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

2. That's the feeling I am getting...

Reply to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:43 AM

Oct 2021

That Manchin and Sinema do not want the Build Back Better bill to pass in any form.

The progressives have already accepted the framework President Biden released on Thursday.

What's keeping Manchin and Sinema?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)

5. Manchin is already on record as saying he sees no reason to pass the BBB "this year".

Reply to bluewater (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:54 AM

Oct 2021

And he seems to have a new or repeated objection each week.

I think Sinema wants the BIF but would be happy if the BBB went away.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

7. +1000

Reply to PoliticAverse (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 11:01 AM

Oct 2021

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)

3. Call me when the bills are signed.

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:50 AM

Oct 2021

I don't trust those two one bit. I'm patient and willing to wait until I see it done and complete. Until then, I'm not counting anything that isn't signed, sealed and delivered.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)

4. Don't even count words - only a vote really counts.

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:51 AM

Oct 2021

The bill is over 1,000 pages long. They can say they support the "framework" and at the last minute say NO because they discovered something buried in the bill they object to.

JohnSJ

(92,219 posts)

6. I think if they do it to the framework publicly, it is a done deal. The fact that they haven't

Reply to PoliticAverse (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:56 AM

Oct 2021

publicly committed to the framework speaks volumes

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

9. "The fact that they haven't publicly committed to the framework speaks volumes"

Reply to JohnSJ (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 11:10 AM

Oct 2021

I totally agree.

If Manchin and Sinema just said they would vote for a bill following President Biden's framework announced on Thursday, the House would have passed the infrastructure bill that very same evening.