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global1

(25,252 posts)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:16 PM Oct 2021

The Fact That Tr**p & Company & The Repugs & Insurrectionists Are Not Being Held Accountable......

for their crimes - gives the cult the green light to break laws and feel that they can get away with it.

We are becoming a lawless society. Open carry. Walking down the street with guns. Think Rittenhouse in Kenosha.

This has got to change or we'll become like the Old West.

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The Fact That Tr**p & Company & The Repugs & Insurrectionists Are Not Being Held Accountable...... (Original Post) global1 Oct 2021 OP
We are saving all the good stuff for next election. pwb Oct 2021 #1
What makes you think so? If something were happening, Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #3
I've begun to suspect there is, in fact, no powder. FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #4
I doubt they are squirming at all. They see they can get away with it. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #9
They're not squirming. Lauren Boebert just released a video... SMC22307 Oct 2021 #16
I say they are squirming. pwb Oct 2021 #18
QBert and Gaetz are now joking about blowing up the metal detectors... SMC22307 Oct 2021 #20
You actually think they could blow something up in the Capitol? Come on. pwb Nov 2021 #22
Them personally? No. One of their rabid supporters? Yes. SMC22307 Nov 2021 #23
They just don't scare me. pwb Nov 2021 #26
LOL I'm angry, not afraid. Just like I was after 9/11. SMC22307 Nov 2021 #27
Alrighty then we all know were you stand, pwb Nov 2021 #28
Looks like it took years to string up Nixon's minions, I think they're on schedule for Trump's uponit7771 Oct 2021 #2
We don't have years. And this is much worse. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #10
+1, yeah and being a child molester, racist, murderer or anti American isn't a deal breaker for MAGA uponit7771 Oct 2021 #12
For Nixon it took 2 years, from 1972 to 1974. wnylib Oct 2021 #13
The question at that Charlie Kirk event chilled metothe bone. QED Oct 2021 #5
It started with Fitzmas... I have no faith anyone will ever be held accountable elias7 Oct 2021 #6
Agree with you 100%. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #11
Started with Fitzmas? I'll see your Fitzmas and raise you... JHB Oct 2021 #17
I'm afraid you are right. I fold. elias7 Oct 2021 #19
In the Old West, civilians were instructed by signs to turn their guns in at the Sheriff's office TeamProg Oct 2021 #7
So was Tombstone, Arizona. Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #8
Some Old West towns Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #21
Not like the 'old west', like Nazi Germany. triron Oct 2021 #14
Fourth Reich "Money trumps peace" frame of life. Kid Berwyn Nov 2021 #25
Partially correct. . .that only applies to white Christian Conservative Republicans AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #15
Thank you! Well said! Kid Berwyn Nov 2021 #24

pwb

(11,276 posts)
1. We are saving all the good stuff for next election.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:20 PM
Oct 2021

I can wait. It makes them squirm and that's nice.

Scrivener7

(50,955 posts)
3. What makes you think so? If something were happening,
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:17 PM
Oct 2021

we would have seen SOMETHING.

Some colleague would have filmed a laptop being confiscated. A third tier witness would have told a friend they testified and the friend would have tweeted something about it. Someone significant would walk into a federal building to be deposed.

Nothing of the sort is happening. Garland has made a public statement that he is worried about radicalizing the 1/6 traitors.

We aren't keeping any powder dry for the next election. No one is squirming. The good stuff is not going to be used.

Nothing is going on behind the scenes. The pile of shit we are looking at doesn't mean there is a pony around here somewhere.

HUAJIAO

(2,386 posts)
9. I doubt they are squirming at all. They see they can get away with it.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:03 PM
Oct 2021

Not until some serious jail times happens will 'they' take anything seriously.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
16. They're not squirming. Lauren Boebert just released a video...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:33 PM
Oct 2021

of her strutting up the Capitol steps with "Let's Go Brandon!" projected on a wall. And there's an alarming number of Boebert/Cawthorn/Green-like candidates running in 2022. Something needs to be done to these fuckers NOW.

pwb

(11,276 posts)
18. I say they are squirming.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:56 AM
Oct 2021

Have patience, as others have said below politics takes time and announcements are strategic.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
20. QBert and Gaetz are now joking about blowing up the metal detectors...
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:34 PM
Oct 2021

at the Capitol. No repercussions. No squirming. They're emboldened.

pwb

(11,276 posts)
22. You actually think they could blow something up in the Capitol? Come on.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:03 AM
Nov 2021

Saying anything to make the stupid forget their crimes. Talk is cheap. Your in a hurry and the law and politics work slower. Big gains for us all over the country in tomorrows election. If not come back and I will squirm for you.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
23. Them personally? No. One of their rabid supporters? Yes.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:30 PM
Nov 2021

Did you sleep through 1/6? Bombs planted at the RNC and DNC? Recent federal agency evacuations due to bomb threats? If any one of us joked about blowing up our workplaces we'd be canned... why do members of Congress get a pass?

pwb

(11,276 posts)
26. They just don't scare me.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 02:49 PM
Nov 2021

But you go ahead. I am a combat veteran and was wide awake on 1/6 watching my Capitol attacked, you don't know me. Maybe you should wake up and toughen up a bit.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
27. LOL I'm angry, not afraid. Just like I was after 9/11.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:04 PM
Nov 2021

And I have a huge problem with the thought of bombs around the Capitol, government agencies, DC in general.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
12. +1, yeah and being a child molester, racist, murderer or anti American isn't a deal breaker for MAGA
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:10 PM
Oct 2021

wnylib

(21,484 posts)
13. For Nixon it took 2 years, from 1972 to 1974.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:11 PM
Oct 2021

For several months in the begining there was nothing reported, although there were apparently investigations going on. Hillary Clinton was among the lawyers involved in the investigations.

elias7

(4,007 posts)
6. It started with Fitzmas... I have no faith anyone will ever be held accountable
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:15 PM
Oct 2021

7 f*in hearings for Benghazi. Dem leadership has never shown me any teeth, only high road, high morality, but that tack results in Repubs feeling more and more empowered.

This time NEEDS to be different, but I just won’t believe it possible until I see it.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
17. Started with Fitzmas? I'll see your Fitzmas and raise you...
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 12:00 AM
Oct 2021

...a couple of Reagan/Bush scandals that could have used a solid review once people who potentially may have become direct targets of an investigation were no longer in a position to direct entire agencies to stonewall investigations that were in progress.

Hell, I'll raise you Daniel Patrick Moynihan declaring "America doesn't need and does not want another failed presidency" regarding Iran-Contra.

elias7

(4,007 posts)
19. I'm afraid you are right. I fold.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:39 AM
Oct 2021

Repubs have always played by different rules, and though I don’t support going to toe to toe with the same evil tactics, I have witnessed time and time again an unwillingness to play hardball on the part of Dem leadership.

There is no excuse not to pull out all stops for subpoenas and document gathering, as the stakes, IMO, have never been higher…

TeamProg

(6,139 posts)
7. In the Old West, civilians were instructed by signs to turn their guns in at the Sheriff's office
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:28 PM
Oct 2021

to be held until they left town.

Dodge City was one such town.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gun-control-old-west-180968013/

"""The laws of Tombstone at the time required visitors, upon entering town to disarm, either at a hotel or a lawman's office. (Residents of many famed cattle towns, such as Dodge City, Abilene, and Deadwood, had similar restrictions.) """


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/did-the-wild-west-have-mo_b_956035

""Guns were obviously widespread on the frontier. Out in the untamed wilderness, you needed a gun to be safe from bandits, natives, and wildlife. In the cities and towns of the West, however, the law often prohibited people from toting their guns around. A visitor arriving in Wichita, Kansas in 1873, the heart of the Wild West era, would have seen signs declaring, "Leave Your Revolvers At Police Headquarters, and Get a Check."

A check? That's right. When you entered a frontier town, you were legally required to leave your guns at the stables on the outskirts of town or drop them off with the sheriff, who would give you a token in exchange. You checked your guns then like you'd check your overcoat today at a Boston restaurant in winter. Visitors were welcome, but their guns were not. """"

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
8. So was Tombstone, Arizona.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:34 PM
Oct 2021

The gunfight at the OK Corral was all about Law Enforcement disarming some people who refused to give their guns up.

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
21. Some Old West towns
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:53 PM
Oct 2021

really were stereotypical in the amount of violence and guns. My small county in New Mexico in 1884 had 12,000 residents and 32 murders that year. That’s insanely violent.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,698 posts)
15. Partially correct. . .that only applies to white Christian Conservative Republicans
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:27 PM
Oct 2021

Remember the police pepper spraying seated WTO protestors?

Remember the insane police presence at any BLM rally?

Now. . .remember the police doing nothing at "unite the right?" Or giving the mass shooter of the black church hamburgers before taking him in? Remember George Floyd, Tamir Rice, etc.

Since police have been taken over by the right wing, expect more selective enforcement of law.

Remember in Florida, police fist bumped a man actually WEARING A SWASTIKA on his shirt.

Kid Berwyn

(14,908 posts)
24. Thank you! Well said!
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:32 PM
Nov 2021

No one is above the law.

It’s past time we start remembering that, let alone acting on it.

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