In a setback for Black Lives Matter, mayoral campaigns shift to 'law and order'

[Celerity]

Across the country, local candidates are pitching themselves as advocates on safety and supporters of the police.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/30/crime-mayors-races/

Mayoral candidates across the country are closing out their campaigns pledging to restore law and order, a major setback for racial justice protesters who only a year ago thought they had permanently reshaped the debate on policing in American cities.

As voters head to the polls Tuesday, local elections are dominated by discussions about safety and law enforcement amid a surge in violent crime. The tone of the debate, even in many liberal urban communities, highlights how major policing reforms have stalled.

From Buffalo to Seattle, Democratic politicians who once championed significant reductions or reallocations of police department budgets are backtracking. In other cities, including Cleveland, liberal candidates are being hammered over their stances on public safety.

And even in cities without a competitive mayor’s race, the question of how to get tough on crime and bolster public safety has emerged as a defining issue. In Miami Beach, for example, Mayor Dan Gelber (D) is campaigning for a controversial referendum that would ban the sale of alcohol at bars and nightclubs after 2 a.m., which the mayor says is needed to regain control of the city after a tumultuous year of unruly behavior and gun violence. Gelber is also exploring how Miami Beach can hire more police officers.

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[pfitz59]

1. I live in Seattle

The big race is for City Attorney. One wants to defund the police and not prosecute misdemeanors. The other wants to crack down on crime.

[Celerity]

2. Who do you think will win?

I think overall nationwide, the law and order types will win out and copper killings/brutality will continue apace.

[brooklynite]

13. I watched their debate earlier this month;...

…the “Defund the Police” candidate hasn’t got a chance. Voters in Seattle (not just white ones) are extremely frustrated with crime and quality of life issues.

[ColinC]

3. Law and order

For everybody, or just against those who can't afford bail and a lawyer?

[Celerity]

4. Certainly not for everyone. We all know the main skulls getting cracked are and will be those of

PoC and the poor.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

5. If these "law & order" types put more effort into

combatting white collar crime, conditions that lead to other crime might be changed for the better.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

6. What the heck does this mean?

a group of men opened fire during what police later said had been a meetup over a Facebook Marketplace ad.

[Celerity]

8. Details

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Shaker-High-student-killed-in-Albany-gunfire-16201004.php

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

23. Thanks. I don't do facebook, so that bit sounded

like gibberish to me. But your link did clarify it.

Well, as if all the death isn't bad enough, the increased violence is bad for Dems. Unlike the violence on the right, which doesn't seem to hurt the Rs.

They can attempt a coup, worship a POTUS who never even read the Constitution and still call themselves patriots without every single other American laughing in their faces and pointing out the hypocrisy in all that.

I dread what this country is coming to.

[Solly Mack]

7. K&R

[luv2fly]

9. It doesn't have to be one or the other

Police reform and law and order should coexist.

[maxsolomon]

16. Nuance and complexity are tough for voters.

Hell, they're tough on DU. The kneejerk is strong here.

[Celerity]

17. In a normal nation yes, but the US has a horrific law enforcement template in terms of

police forces that it has erected. Hyper-militarised, both in terms of staffing and equipment, orchestrated and defended by criminal crime syndicates falsely called police unions, all backed by an ecosphere undergirded with both racism/white nationalism and an absolute deference to the rich and powerful.

The political will to tear that corrupt, violent, deadly template down simply doesn't exist, and so the cycle of brutality is just going to keep repeating itself ad nauseam.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. An utterly unsurprising disappointment.

[MichMan]

11. Seems like they are listening to their constituents

"Three-fourths of Black Americans, who form a decisive voting bloc in many mayoral contests, either support increasing or keeping spending on police the same, Pew found.

The shift in public opinion comes after the U.S. cities experienced a 30 percent jump in killings in 2020, the largest one-year increase since the federal government began compiling national figures in the 1960s."

[stillcool]

12. that defies logic

I have no doubt that people are killing each other more, just by the number of guns in this country, and the deteriorating mental health of the citizenry. Cops just add to the violence. Being black in America you're more likely to be a statistic for murder by cop.

[MichMan]

14. Much more likely to be a victim of crime

[stillcool]

18. crime for which you should never,

ever, call the police.

[Devil Child]

19. Nah, I'll keep calling the police when forced to deal with crime and criminals

Happily so and without a care for an other's moral stance.

[stillcool]

20. has nothing to do with 'moral' stance

has everything to do with living. It'll come around. May take some time, but it'll come around. Can't keep that stuff bottled up, you know?

CRIME
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/crime/officers-charged-with-murder-of-jamarion-robinson-request-to-move-case-to-federal-court/85-1b44fa2a-6eea-43a7-82f8-806047ba7cc4
Death of Jamarion Robinson | Officers charged with murder seek to move case to federal court
If the case is moved, federal court filings show the pair plan to seek immunity as federal officers.

Author: Joe Henke
Published: 7:56 PM EDT October 29, 2021
Updated: 8:56 PM EDT October 29, 2021
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ATLANTA — A U.S. Marshal and Clayton County police officer charged in Fulton County with murdering Jamarion Robinson are both now seeking to have their case moved to federal court.

Robinson is the man shot 59 times by law enforcement in 2016, according to a medical examiner report. If the case is moved, federal court filings show the pair plan to seek immunity as federal officers.

https://www.courthousenews.com/georgia-da-demands-records-on-man-shot-59-times/
Georgia DA Demands Records on Man Shot 59 Times
The Atlanta-area district attorney claims in court that the Department of Justice has refused to hand over records about members of a federal task force who fatally shot a black student-athlete at least 59 times.

KAYLA GOGGIN / December 28, 2018
ATLANTA (CN) – The Atlanta-area district attorney claims in court that the Department of Justice has refused to hand over records about members of a federal task force who fatally shot a black student-athlete at least 59 times.

Jamarion Robinson, a 26-year-old student and football player at Clark Atlanta University, was shot and killed by a team of local and federal officers who broke down the door to his girlfriend's apartment on Aug. 5, 2016, according to a lawsuit filed Thursday in Atlanta federal court by the office of Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard.


"It has now been 875 days since the officers killed Mr. Robinson, and the DOJ has yet to provide any of the documents or evidence requested and has failed to provide any investigative reports relating to Mr. Robinson's death," the complaint states.
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Robinson was not charged with any federal crime and there was no federal arrest warrant pending for him, the lawsuit states.

Except for a traffic violation, Robinson's record was clean, the DA says.

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“The medical examiner recorded over 59 entry wounds into Mr. Robinson’s body. Without the documents requested, described herein, there is a question as to whether Mr. Robinson’s killing was justified,” the complaint states.

[Devil Child]

21. Your links also don't factor into my calling the PD when needed

I have had to dispatch PD for self and others many times both professionally and unfortunately as a victim of crime. I dial 911 and call PD as my correct and ethical stance plus it has everything to do with living. Definitely can't keep that inaction bottled up. I'm all for you choosing what to do for yourself when experiencing crime. Most folks enjoy minimal effects of crime on their day-to-day, hence the shift to "law and order" by many mayoral campaigns referenced in the OP.