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Nevilledog

(51,121 posts)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:13 AM Oct 2021

Joe Manchin wanted to have work requirements for people to have paid leave from work.





https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/10/30/manchin-paid-leave/

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Yet House Democrats’ foray immediately encountered trouble. Manchin and Sinema each had demanded massive cuts to the overarching $3.5 trillion price tag. Even though paid-leave programs had been popular among lawmakers in the party — and some, including Sinema, had unveiled related legislation in the past — the centrist duo said the total package cost too much.

Manchin, meanwhile, privately expressed to Democratic lawmakers, White House officials and paid-leave advocates a series of evolving concerns specifically with the proposed benefit program, according to five people familiar with his thinking, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private negotiations.

At times, the senator from West Virginia said a paid-leave program could invite fraud, likening it to those who tried to collect unemployment even when they were not eligible. In some conversations with lawmakers and advocates, he asked about work requirements, even though employment is a condition for one to take leave in the first place, some of the sources said.

In other instances, Manchin raised the potential impact on small businesses, which needed workers to remain on the job. And in public and private, Manchin highlighted issues with the “solvency” of a new social benefit program, pointing to his long-documented concerns that existing federal entitlements, including Medicare, are running out of funds.

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Joe Manchin wanted to have work requirements for people to have paid leave from work. (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP
Is he ignorant or just yanking everyone around? Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #1
Yes. Nevilledog Oct 2021 #2
I thought so. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #5
He's owned by his corporate masters and they're yanking HIM around Arazi Oct 2021 #3
not ignorant...more like the total lack of empathy.... agingdem Oct 2021 #8
Perhaps he just spouts his talking points. Even if he makes no sense. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #17
I am surprised Manchin hasn't insisted on a requirement to be pregnant during family leave Pachamama Oct 2021 #4
They are damaging our party. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #7
Paid Family Leave Program malletgirl02 Oct 2021 #6
They will just whine and cry, claiming they can't afford it. kcr Oct 2021 #11
the problem he is alluding to is one of not being able to cover for the absent worker dsc Oct 2021 #20
Sounds like he is just making up sh*t Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #9
no..just a selfish entitled mega rich asshole agingdem Oct 2021 #13
Then let's make work requirements for coal stock dividends. Rhiagel Oct 2021 #10
You Know, Ma'am, I Never Thought The Man Was Stupid Before The Magistrate Oct 2021 #12
Right? Nevilledog Oct 2021 #21
No clue about how the little people live Bayard Oct 2021 #14
Wut. Wingus Dingus Oct 2021 #15
I think Manchin isn't a very bright man. CousinIT Oct 2021 #16
He is bullying the Senate with his bullshit! BlueJac Oct 2021 #18
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #19
Catch 22 in living reality. Liberal In Texas Oct 2021 #22

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
8. not ignorant...more like the total lack of empathy....
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:33 AM
Oct 2021

work requirement for paid leave..huh??..that's like saying admission is free/pay at the door....here's hoping Manchin's wife who works for Joe has the good sense to divorce the sonofabitch and take him for all he's worth!

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
4. I am surprised Manchin hasn't insisted on a requirement to be pregnant during family leave
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:19 AM
Oct 2021


Manchin and Sinema will go down in history as having played a negative direct role in the outcome of events….regardless of the final vote. They singlehandedly have helped gut and destroy what could have been the greatest achievement yet by the Democratic Party and helped this Nation and our democracy.

malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
6. Paid Family Leave Program
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:20 AM
Oct 2021

Wouldn't a federal paid family leave program help small businesses? They wouldn't have to complete with big business with leave benefits.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
11. They will just whine and cry, claiming they can't afford it.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:41 AM
Oct 2021

Because the truth is too many small business owners feel entitled to own their businesses on the backs of the people they exploit.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
20. the problem he is alluding to is one of not being able to cover for the absent worker
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:02 PM
Oct 2021

If you have only one accountant or only one HR person that kind of thing. It seems to be a temp should work out in most cases though.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
9. Sounds like he is just making up sh*t
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:34 AM
Oct 2021

Reminds me of Fox making up crap.

I can understand employers and our filthy rich oligarchy complaining about cost but the stuff Manchin is now throwing out is utter nonsense.

He's run out of slightly valid complaints and is now just throwing out anything his pee brain stumbles over. Are we sure he isn't a Trump worshipper?

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
13. no..just a selfish entitled mega rich asshole
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:59 AM
Oct 2021

whose "got" his and doesn't want the Great Unwashed" to "get" theirs...

Rhiagel

(1,676 posts)
10. Then let's make work requirements for coal stock dividends.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:36 AM
Oct 2021

I want to see 1/2 million dollars in sweat pour from Machin's brow before he earns those coal dividends.

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
16. I think Manchin isn't a very bright man.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:23 PM
Oct 2021

OR as someone else here mentioned, he may just be yanking everyone's chain Trump style.

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