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turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:53 PM Oct 2021

Anti-vax nurse films herself being escorted out of Kaiser Permanente for refusing vaccine

By David Edwards
Published October 31, 2021

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A nurse who claims to have a religious objection to vaccines went viral over the weekend after she claimed to lose her job at Kaiser Permanente.

In a video that had been viewed over a million times on Twitter, the nurse says she is being escorted out of the building by security because she refused the Covid-19 vaccine.

"I am being escorted out of Kaiser Permanente hospital for my religious beliefs because I don't want to get the jab," she explains. "And I asked all day for someone to explain to me why my sincerely held religious beliefs are not good enough for Kaiser. And no one was able to do that for me. So now they're escorting me out because I wanted an answer and I'm not leaving without an answer."

https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vax-nurse-escorted-out/


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Anti-vax nurse films herself being escorted out of Kaiser Permanente for refusing vaccine (Original Post) turbinetree Oct 2021 OP
See yeah, we don't want yeah providing us medical care. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #2
Q-ism is as valid as any other religion. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #16
How classy Jilly_in_VA Oct 2021 #3
Good riddance! PortTack Nov 2021 #4
Good riddance to bad rubbish Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2021 #5
Best reply I saw Nevilledog Nov 2021 #6
Exactly Johonny Nov 2021 #17
It's the crackpot whose claim to fame is a TV show where she inspected people's feces. GoCubsGo Nov 2021 #25
There is plenty of nursing work for her in MAGAt homes. Perfect fit for her. NCjack Nov 2021 #7
I hope to see that vaccinations be mandatory for Nurse License Renewal... FarPoint Nov 2021 #8
Not really a nurse when personal views transcend science and I would guess allows personal beliefs ShazamIam Nov 2021 #9
Loved it at the end when the elevator voice chimes in. "Going down". Solomon Nov 2021 #10
That was good. :) I hope she records her job interviews Hortensis Nov 2021 #21
Lol. Mosby Nov 2021 #22
My sincerely held beliefs Dorian Gray Nov 2021 #11
They never really seem to articulate what this religious belief is. Blue_Adept Nov 2021 #12
Exactly. She wants an explanation why her "sincerely held religious belief" is not adequate-- tanyev Nov 2021 #13
:) Exactly exactly. Checked and Kaiser DOES grant religious exemptions, Hortensis Nov 2021 #20
What I don't get is how people who don't believe in health care work in health care malaise Nov 2021 #14
What I don't get is how people who don't believe in health care work in health care malaise Nov 2021 #15
They believe in it. They just don't understand it. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2021 #23
This nurse is a dope. Raftergirl Nov 2021 #18
She's a dedicated member of "antiva" Zorro Nov 2021 #19
Narcissist, wants to put on a show. Wingus Dingus Nov 2021 #24
https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/political-lying-as-tribal-signaling lindysalsagal Nov 2021 #26

Response to turbinetree (Original post)

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. Q-ism is as valid as any other religion.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:28 AM
Nov 2021

By that I mean, it's a bunch of dangerous lies. Same as any other.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,983 posts)
3. How classy
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:57 PM
Oct 2021


These people should all lose their licenses. The rest of us worked too long and too hard for ours to have these stupid anti-vaxxers dirty them up.

Nevilledog

(51,121 posts)
6. Best reply I saw
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:17 AM
Nov 2021


Tweet text:
Jeff Roush
@JeffRoushPoetry

If a surgical nurse claimed to have a religious belief that meant she couldn’t use antibacterial soap, would she still be allowed to be a surgical nurse and just not scrub in, because freedom? If your belief means you can’t give safe, effective care, it’s not the job for you.

9:27 AM · Oct 31, 2021

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
25. It's the crackpot whose claim to fame is a TV show where she inspected people's feces.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:56 AM
Nov 2021

Anyone else remember the BBC's "You Are What You Eat?" Ol' Gillian would shame people over their diets, inspect and analyze a fecal sample, and then put them on some pseudoscientific quack diet. If they didn't stick with it, she'd move in with them and harrass them until they did. She's awful.

ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
9. Not really a nurse when personal views transcend science and I would guess allows personal beliefs
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 02:23 AM
Nov 2021

to disregard other standard medical practices. and something I have noticed in a few nurses and wonder if any one else has encountered nurses doing and saying things you know to be false.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. That was good. :) I hope she records her job interviews
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:01 AM
Nov 2021

and posts those also. Maybe she'll show herself wandering around those facilities demanding to know why she wasn't hired.

Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
11. My sincerely held beliefs
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:27 AM
Nov 2021

Include NOT BEING MEDICALLY TREATED BY AN ANTI-SCIENTIFIC MEDICINE DENYING LUNATIC.

tanyev

(42,567 posts)
13. Exactly. She wants an explanation why her "sincerely held religious belief" is not adequate--
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:16 AM
Nov 2021

how about she explain exactly what religion she belongs to, how long she has been an adherent of that religion, and also provide a copy of their doctrinal statement of objection to the vaccine?

Might as well claim that you have a sincerely held religious belief that you need a vodka martini every afternoon.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. :) Exactly exactly. Checked and Kaiser DOES grant religious exemptions,
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:53 AM
Nov 2021

but members of the Church of the Holy Martini would presumably need to be able to at least produce a doctrinal statement.

Happily, her own evidence of this little stunt should survive for future HR departments to turn up. Spending "all day" at Kaiser after she supposedly no longer worked there harassing everyone she could find. Oh, yeah!

malaise

(269,054 posts)
14. What I don't get is how people who don't believe in health care work in health care
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:24 AM
Nov 2021

I mean WTF? Just pray to whoever for your cures and Eff off woman!

malaise

(269,054 posts)
15. What I don't get is how people who don't believe in health care work in health care
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:24 AM
Nov 2021

I mean WTF? Just pray to whoever for your cures and Eff off woman!

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
23. They believe in it. They just don't understand it.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:31 AM
Nov 2021

There isn't a strong emphasis on research in undergraduate health care education, broadly speaking. Nursing school teaches you to nurse. It doesn't doesn't teach you to read and review Lancet articles.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
26. https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/political-lying-as-tribal-signaling
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:27 AM
Nov 2021

Noah Smith Nov 29, 2020


Instead, I offer another possibility — that lies of this sort are uttered precisely because they come with costs. I propose that political lies are a costly signal of tribal loyalty.

Remember, in economics, “signaling” means much more than just “trying to prove something”. Signaling in econ is basically when people jump through hoops in order to prove themselves. You might take a useless but difficult college course or math test, just to prove to future employers that you’re smart. Or you might get a tattoo to prove your loyalty to a yakuza gang, even though the tattoo would make it harder to get into a Japanese public bath or get a normal job. The fact that the signal comes with a cost is essential to separating the dedicated people from the posers.

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F640bbf02-16a0-4b7a-b400-47c88abe157a_585x422.png

Political lies could function similarly to the gang tattoos. By going on record as saying that we should seriously consider the possibility that climate change might not be real, you exposure yourself to a lifetime of ridicule. But that very exposure might prove that you’re the real thing, hardcore, really on the team, to a partisan audience who might otherwise be inclined to question your conservative bona fides. After all, if you were really a cuckservative or RINO, would you really have been willing to risk your reputation in the media world or in East Coast intellectual circles just to spread some FUD about climate change?
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